Pinout of IIsi Pivot card video connector?

[papa_november]

There's a gigantic pile of IIsi Radius Pivot video cards on eBay right now that are missing the video connector breakout cable that goes from the card to the back panel.

Does anyone have this card, and can they figure out what the pinout for the cable is?

Also, is there a chance in hell of this card working in an SE/30 if it could be made to fit?

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Interesting, Ive seen almost that same picture listed as an SE/30 Pivot (presumably Greyscale) interface card. I just got one from macmetex along with one for the Color Pivot that has exactly the same connector. I haven't found my Radius SE FPD Card and cable as yet (found the "Magic Bus" adapter though) but I'm looking for it. If the SE FPD card has the same cable header, that'll be a VERY good place to start.

I believe that the low profile cards for SE/30 and IIsi are very likely to be identical, with only the backplane plate/cable length to differentiate them.

I'm still 43.2% asleep, more info to be posted after my coffee kicks in . . .

< three cups of coffee later later: he re-posts reply in the thread on the proper website . . . DUH!! . . . :-/ >

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to be continued . . . the grlf is restless and I'm going into fecal avoidance mode! 8-o

Back again! :approve: Well, the first pic I linked to from 'fritter proves my guess wrong, however my 1992 ROM, 1990 PCB copyright Color Pivot Card says: PIVOT O3O DIRECT SLOT INTERFACE and has the same 15 pin header/shroud for the cable as does my PIVOT IIsi INTERFACE 1990 copyrighted card that seems identical to the one in your pic. Mine has a full ROM covering label that says: CLR/PVT V 2.6

The 'fritter image of my Radius_FPD_SE card, shows a 10 pin 9 signal, keyed/unshrouded header for the cable, so if I or anyone else can buz that connector out, we'll have a starting point! Hopefully someone else will come up with the real deal and save us the (guess)work!

I don't see any reason why you can't use the IIsi Color Pivot card as the bottom card in a gamba'd SE/30!

I'll post pics of my cards soon, I just ordered a second IIsi card as backup. I'll be desoldering the connectors of one of the Color Pivot Cards and one of my '030 Slot Ethernet cards to splay them out across the bottom of my IIsi's MoBo in another sub-basement approach hack.

I'm shooting for a (non-pivoting) Color Monitor sitting next to my IIsi with my APD sitting on top, running off the MoBo Video, happily in 8 bit greyscale mode as it's doing right now under 7.5.1. Hopefully, I can knock the OS back to runing the whole shebang under 7.0.1 (with the Tune-Up) installed on a low profile SCSI II Drive.

That'll leave plenty of room for a NuBus Adapter Card above the deck, sporting my Radius Rocket 33 and a, one day to be acquired, SCSI II Daughtercard.

My lowly 'lil IIsi will be ready to kick some serious SE/30 @$$! }

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

8-o AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O

$0no^-@^^o^*&%&$^$&^%&|**&<^*>^*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The @%$^^&%$:">><@ PSU on my IIsi just donned a vest made by DuPont and did the "NOT SO SMART BOMB" SUICIDE GIG!!!! That little RAT B@$T@RD tried to take my Apple Portrait Display to HADES WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just a bit calmer now . . . the 8500 proved that the APD is still waking up on the green side of the sod. But I had quite a scare when my 475 (currently relegated to supporting the APD at a jaunty angle) and 6400 couldn't coax it to display anything! I figured it was a goner for sure, but in retrospect, the 6400 Video is probably too intentionally lamed to drive an APD and the 475 was probably just stubbornly insisting that it wants its PRAM Battery replaced . . .

But the poor IIsi MoBo very likely went to Valhalla while its INSUFFERABLY EVIL PSU will endure eternal and fitting damnation in Dante's Inferno! >

Time for a new thread, but my SE/30 Killer Project is on unfortunately shoved to the back-burner VERY shortly after its inception . . . :'(

Maybe I'll gut that PSU like a freakin' fish and do an ATX PSU Lobotomization on that evil lil' F***3R! }

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

The IIsi LIVES!!!!!!!

Now, back at the banana ranch! )

I just got another of the boards in question for testing along with a replacement SE FPD Display Card w' bracket & cable. I'm hoping that the color coding on the wires is consistent between the two boards. If so, I ought to be able to rig up a cable to drive my APD (actually a crappy multisync test unit [}] ]'> ) from the matching color coded lines/pins on the IIsi ColorPivot Card . . .

. . . I figure it's worth a shot, most of the stuff Radius did was on the sensible, utilitarian side of things anyway . . .

I wish someone still around would post the pinouts for the real cable though! :-/

 

[papa_november]

If what you have matches up with the photo of the Pivot card in terms of wire color coding and so forth, I say you should buzz it out. Especially if that Full Page Display card is color-capable.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

FPD dislays were Grayscale,which is a partial Color Implementation.

I've already got the SE Cable connections buzzed and am generating a wire color/signal table/graphic, [] ]'>

I've also got an SE/30 FPD Card, an SE/30 Color Pivot Card, a NuBus Color Pivot Card, several other Radius NuBus cards (and I'm not sure what else) to compare the video signal traces between chips and sense pin traces to their respective digital glue connections.

I'll get this sucker up & runnin' one way or another! [}] ]'>