Millenium bug after 20 years?

[SE30_Neal]

No way? I do have a mix of file in my se/30 some back to 1990’s going through To last week i got from macintoshgarden. The hhd is still working

 

[CC_333]

The turn of the Millennium was either at the beginning or the end of the year 2000

I don't wish to stray too far off topic, but to me, the new millennium began sometime toward the end of 2001. I was there, and from what I recall, 2000 and most of 2001 very much felt like the 90s. After late '01, though, things began to change quite drastically, with computers (particularly operating systems) finally beginning to look and feel much more modern (Mac OS X and Windows XP both saw their respective RTM releases in mid-late 2001; before this, Mac OS 9 was still largely based on System 7 from 1991, and Windows' UI was still largely based on Windows 95 and 98 (granted, XP was basically identical to 2000 (and, thus, 9x) save for the extra eye candy, but it was that eye candy, more than anything, that set it apart from it's predecessors because XP was the first to have it)). The hardware itself also began to take on a more modern appearance (the all to common black with silver trim, which is the new Beige even to this day, it seems).

And, of course there was a bunch of other, generation-defining things going on (including, of course, the beginnings of the modern Internet and WWW as we know them today), but I won't discuss those here, lest I embark down a slippery slope none of us want to see

c

 

[Scott Baret]

CC, I agree with your assessment on 2000-2001 seeming a lot like "nineteen ninety ten" and "nineteen ninety eleven", and this of course extends beyond computers and technology in general. 2001 seems much more like 1998 than 2004 despite there being a three year difference between both years, plus or minus.

I also feel the beginnings of the internet and the internet in general define generations. I know some may disagree with me, but I feel people who remember a time before the internet are a different generation than those who can't really remember that. I like to use 1988 as my defining year for this; most people born in 1987 or earlier would remember those days considering the internet made it big around 1994. 

Regarding the actual start of a millennium, it's always xyz1. Likewise, a decade is x1 and a century is xy1. (x, y, and z represent any digit between 0 and 9).

Regarding the bug, have you checked out the SetDate control panel? There's also a System 6 version now!

 

[SE30_Neal]

Yes 2000 was where it changed i agree, my 2001 imac with osx 10.3 on seems like any new computer, my 1995 PowerPc and my Mac SE/30 feel really really old by comparison. Unfortunately I remember the 1970’s just with my first computer in 1981 wow thinks have changed a lot

 

[MacintoshMan1999]

Regarding the bug, have you checked out the SetDate control panel? There's also a System 6 version now!

Where can I find the System 6 version of SetDate?

 

[CC_333]

CC, I agree with your assessment on 2000-2001 seeming a lot like "nineteen ninety ten" and "nineteen ninety eleven", and this of course extends beyond computers and technology in general. 2001 seems much more like 1998 than 2004 despite there being a three year difference between both years, plus or minus.

Well said. Everything seemed so, nineties, from radio and TV to computers and the Internet.

It does definitely seem like late 2001, for me, as I said before, is like a big period, where everything that came after is distinctly different from everything that came before (I can even pin it down to a specific day, but PM me if you want to hear my take on that, as it's probably too political to post here).

All in all, the past 18 years have been very weird, and I don't think things have turned out quite like we all expected them to.

c

 

[re4mat]

Where can I find the System 6 version of SetDate?

http://www.synack.net/~bbraun/macapps.html

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Yes another 20 years is quite an ask for electronics as those capacitors have killed off so many already  .  .  .  i’ll be 63 

I'll be 84 and hopefully as active as my dad is now. Genetics/family history puts him active until his mid 90s.

I don't measure decades so much by advances of tech and OS. I was one of those persnickety folks holding out for the Millennium calendar rollover at 1/1/2001, but for me the rollover was pushed to 9/11/2001 when much of everything changed.

 

[MacintoshMan1999]

http://www.synack.net/~bbraun/macapps.html

Thank you

 

[CC_333]

the rollover was pushed to 9/11/2001 when much of everything changed. 

I coudn't agree more! That's a date none of us will ever forget, I think. It might as well have been the beginning of a completely new reality, not just a new millennium. Where were you that day?

c

 

[SE30_Neal]

I was in Canary Wharf tower in London, which was the uk’s tallest building at the time and over the flight path of city airport. We were evacuated when the first plane hit tower 1. The entire financial sector was evacuated to be precise from the entire area.

very sad day and I agree a completely new era for the western world

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Danamania said people couldn't sleep that night in oz, do you folks down under figure you're in the Western World? Geographic location may be as malleable as the date of the Millennium.

I coudn't agree more! That's a date none of us will ever forget, I think. It might as well have been the beginning of a completely new reality, not just a new millennium. Where were you that day?

I was just a few blocks north, driving down Broadway from a customer's parking garage at the corner of Houston street to survey a parking lot on corner of Lispenard, a block south of Canal street when the first plane flew right over me.

 

[CC_333]

I was just a few blocks north, driving down Broadway from a customer's parking garage at the corner of Houston street to survey a parking lot on corner of Lispenard, a block south of Canal street when the first plane flew right over me.

Wow! You were practically up close and personal! It must not have been a fun sight to see (being so close, you probably got a nearly perfect view of the menagerie as it happened).

c

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

I'd call the experience surreal and horrifying, like being more than fully immersed in a Hollywood Blockbuster IRL. I walked around the corner to Canal where I could see the gaping hole the news reports were still saying was a probably a small plane. One look was enough, I stayed put at the parking lot after having called my estranged wife to have our son walk there from Stuyvesant High School to meet me. I felt the shock wave when the first Tower fell as I was sitting half in the car with my foot on the pavement. The car bounced noticeably.

 

[SE30_Neal]

Something you’ll never forget. 

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

The shock of that day was visceral, but that's not my clearest recollection. While not Jewish, I was an active member of my family's Reform congregation in Riverdale, NY. I just checked the dates. On the second day of the Jewish New Year, I took my son for the congregation's ritual of Tashlich on the bank of the Hudson river to cast our sins upon the water. The sight of smoke rising from ground zero from that vantage point a dozen miles away on September 19th is seared in my brain clearer than events of the day.

 

[CC_333]

I'd call the experience surreal and horrifying, like being more than fully immersed in a Hollywood Blockbuster IRL.

Indeed! Watching archived news reports and documentary films are like watching said Hollywood Blockbuster from afar, with thousands of people, acting as themselves, playing their various roles on what was an ordinary day that went horribly wrong.

I was too young to fully understand what was happening, nor do I clearly recall every detail (I was about 12), but I remember feeling both puzzlement and amazement when I saw everything happen on the TV when I woke up that morning. I had never conceived that anything like it could be possible, and yet there it was. Plain as day.

The shock of that day was visceral

It was indeed. For all of us (even me- even though I don't recall many of the details (again, because I was young), I'll never forget where I was when it happened, nor what I saw on the TV).

I think in your case, Trash, the fact that you can't recall the actual day that clearly is probably because of the intense shock and horror of it all. Almost nobody remembers things too well under those conditions.

c

 

[techknight]

I was a sophomore in high school, slept in that day as I was out sick and slept past all these events. I didn't even know anything happened until I turned on the TV. I was had the weather channel on, they were mentioning about flights being grounded, and tragedy, etc. I didn't get it. Until I flipped to a news channel. Unfortunately I was still young enough where at the time I didn't really care about what happened as it did not affect "me". But as I got older thats when it started to sink in. 

But yep, it ushered in a new era, technically "the end of the world as we know it" into a new beginning. Beginning of the rape of privacy and police state. Luckily it didn't get as bad as alot of the conspiracies that had been floating around at the time, not to mention the conspiracies that wrap around the 9/11 event itself. A political debate at which I don't want to get involved. Sad though the loss of life from the attacks. Was the first time "war" struck the country since Pearl Harbor. 

 

[CC_333]

Indeed.

It's funny, I was shopping at the local drug store the other day, and as I was passing by the magazines, a familiar-looking photo caught my eye. I didn't know what it was until I looked a little closer, and then I saw the unmistakable image of the burning WTC towers. When I saw it, I couldn't believe people are *still* spinning brand new 9/11 conspiracies (the magazine was some sort of conspiracy-oriented tabloid, I think), and I even said so out loud as I walked away because I was so surprised!

Anyways, we should probably watch what we say along those lines from here on out (it could get too political), lest we get this thread locked xx( However, I don't see any harm in taking about where we were and what we did on that day, and what it represents, in a super general, non-political way (hopefully the mods and admins will agree). Take technology, for instance. It can be argued that, in more ways than not, the results of the investigation into how the attackers pulled it off contributed to the start of what has become the hyper-vigilant security mindset that is so present in modern computing.

c

 

[Mattcintosh]

SetDate crashes my PowerMac 6100 running 7.6.1. Vremya fails to find a network server. I found a utility online called "netchronometer" which does the same thing as Vremya, but actually works. 

 

[bengi3]

I reopen this old thread because a managed to get Netwok Time work with TCP and the PB100 hooked to an Asante Scasi to ethernet thing: