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MDD not turning on after an overclock and overvolt

Nixontheknight

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I have a dual 1.25GHz MDD that I sent to someone on Reddit who overclocked it to 1.5GHz. They did not have the hardware necessary to test it, so I took a gamble (cuphead says double down, I say it’s better not to play), but when I pressed the power button, the light faded to black, there was no life on the screen, and the fans ramped up after 10 seconds or so. Did I just fry two 7455s? I also tried 1.42 to no avail
 

alectrona2988

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the voltage was taken from 1.55 to 1.85V
That is WAAAAAAAAY too much for your card. You may have fried it... Try setting it back to 1.55V if you can. Vcore adjustments aren't necessary until you've tested it and found instabilities. I only needed to bump a 7447B up .050V from 1.325V to make the 1.92GHz clock stable.
 

alectrona2988

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Yeah, unfortunately you may have. Don't worry, I've been there before, at least with damaged solder pads. Ervus on the macrumors forums may be able to help as well; he is fixing a QuickSilver CPU of mine that I damaged solder pads on like a dumbass. haha
 

Nixontheknight

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Yeah, unfortunately you may have. Don't worry, I've been there before, at least with damaged solder pads. Ervus on the macrumors forums may be able to help as well; he is fixing a QuickSilver CPU of mine that I damaged solder pads on like a dumbass. haha
I was actually going to send it back to the person I sent it to who overclocked it in the first place because he’s getting a hot air station to see if he can fix it, because I have a backup plan if the fix goes awry: I’ll buy either a gigabit graphite G4 or an actual 1.5GHz MDD
 

alectrona2988

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I was actually going to send it back to the person I sent it to who overclocked it in the first place because he’s getting a hot air station to see if he can fix it, because I have a backup plan if the fix goes awry: I’ll buy either a gigabit graphite G4 or an actual 1.5GHz MDD
Well if you're looking for dual CPU macs and are in a real treat for restoration, there's a Dual 1GHz QuickSilver G4 on eBay that's been exposed to the elements long-term... haha
There's also a Dual 1GHz MDD on eBay right now too. That one works if I recall.
 

alectrona2988

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The thing is about overclocking, you have to look for a good source. It takes a few tries to find one that's reputable, and if I'm correct the House of Moth has a good page on it. Some people claim to reach certain speeds with exceedingly high vcores, and all that is BS. I remember seeing someone overclock their USB 2.0 eMac to 2.08GHz, and they even had a geekbench for it. However, I was unable to replicate that clock on various eMac motherboards. It's proof and results that count; it's best if you see people achieve the same overclock as the original poster did.

It's nothing to be ashamed of. It requires a lot of experience, trial, and error. I've messed up some known good systems before, and the experience I got from those moments helped me to make the tweaks successful. No hard feelings. :)
 

Nixontheknight

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The thing is about overclocking, you have to look for a good source. It takes a few tries to find one that's reputable, and if I'm correct the House of Moth has a good page on it. Some people claim to reach certain speeds with exceedingly high vcores, and all that is BS. I remember seeing someone overclock their USB 2.0 eMac to 2.08GHz, and they even had a geekbench for it. However, I was unable to replicate that clock on various eMac motherboards. It's proof and results that count; it's best if you see people achieve the same overclock as the original poster did.

It's nothing to be ashamed of. It requires a lot of experience, trial, and error. I've messed up some known good systems before, and the experience I got from those moments helped me to make the tweaks successful. No hard feelings. :)
I was going off of a video by dosdude1 where he took an 867MHz MDD, replaced the CPUs with 7457s, and overclocked it to 1.5GHz, and I was sure I could do the same with my 1.25, which had 7455s, but as I said, overvoltage killed it
 

alectrona2988

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You should have gone off a webpage detailing the process and the necessary placements. Videos like that, while detailed, may not always be the best resource.
 

Nixontheknight

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You should have gone off a webpage detailing the process and the necessary placements. Videos like that, while detailed, may not always be the best resource.
I did also use the house of moth's website, which dosdude had in his description, although it didn't say what voltage to use for 1.5GHz, so I overestimated and fried it
 

alectrona2988

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Yeeeahhh.. Test things out before you adjust vcore. If you do need to adjust vcore, do it one step at a time and find a sweet spot where it's stable.
 

Nixontheknight

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Yeeeahhh.. Test things out before you adjust vcore. If you do need to adjust vcore, do it one step at a time and find a sweet spot where it's stable.
I learned that the hard way, now I have it set to 1.6V and I have since sent it out to the guy who did the overclock in the first place to have them replace the 7455s with either more 7455s or 7457s, whichever is cheaper on eBay
 

alectrona2988

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7455A chips are fairly cheap and they tend to scale well. The original 7455s are kinda crap for scaling. Can't go above 1.2GHz on a QS processor card, and in my case, 1.07.
 

Nixontheknight

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7455A chips are fairly cheap and they tend to scale well. The original 7455s are kinda crap for scaling. Can't go above 1.2GHz on a QS processor card, and in my case, 1.07.
ah, so I'm stuck with 1.25. I was trying to scale it to 1.5 (with a copper heatsink from a 1.5) so that I can use DiscordPPC at a decent speed
 

alectrona2988

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Hmm, I see. Well hopefully you can get it fixed! Unfortunately dual CPUs for old powermacs are not easy to find anymore...
 
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