Macintosh SE Accelerator PDS Add-on Cards

[westcoastech]

Hi Everyone

I have two add-on cards for the Macintosh SE and/or SE/30 that I hope to get a bit of help identifying. I had confirmed they worked when I removed them from the original machines a long time ago but I did not record the information and I no longer have a machine to use at this moment.

From the searching I have done I found another thread on here actually and this one card was best guessed to be a Mobius 030 card but I thought would be best to include it here and could maybe have it identified for sure. The one card was missing a few chips in the picture on the other thread. The other card has the writing Color SE30 A13 Generation X and 1989 Memory Plus COGAM-4 REV B in the lower corner. 

Here are the pictures of the possibly Mobius 030 card



This is the Color Card



Thanks for any help everyone!!!

 

[westcoastech]

Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance

 

[ArmorAlley]

What kind of bus dow they have? the first looks to be the standard SE PDS bus. Is the second one the same? If not, could it be one for the Radius MagicBus?

 

[gpbonneau]

The first is a Mobius 030 card. I have one which works well now.

I think that a missing oscillator on my card is only necessary to use a FPU at 20Mhz. See the jumper next to it.



Driver : http://vintageapple.org/macdrivers/accel.shtml

Virtual software to take into account extra RAM on the card : http://vintageapple.org/macdrivers/accel.shtml

With System 7.0.1 all is OK, with Mobius driver and with Compact Virtual loaded.

View attachment 22983

-> Mobius 030 (v4.99) + Mobius Display + Compact Virtual 3.0.2 in System Folder/Control Panels

-> Mobius 7.01 Fix + Mobius Sound + MobiusInit in System Folder/Extensions

It looks like you have the cable for the screen.
I do not have it, I tried to make one but without success. I have a signal, but no picture.
Do you have the screen?
Can you make a diagram of the cable?

 

[westcoastech]

Hi guys

Thanks a lot for the replies, sorry for the delay, bit of family business.

Here are a couple pictures of the bus connectors on each, they are different sizes, hopefully this gives a bit more info

Here are some pictures of the connector for the Mobius connector gpbonneau let me know if you need more pictures or if you still need a diagram of the wiring.

 

[westcoastech]

There is also a card in this thread that looks similar to my SE30 Color card, what do you guys think?







This is an image of the card on the thread

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[gpbonneau]

Thank you for the picture of the cable. The output video connector is a male DB9... not usual.

It seems the information in the website http://tamaru.world.coocan.jp/Tips/PoweredSE/PoweredSE.html are right.



But I tried to make a cable to VGA monitor without success ... may be the monitor is too specific. Do you have it ?

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Definitely not VGA compatible output. Mobius was a monitor vendor, the monitors supported are listed on that great .jp site.

A couple of us were trying to get a similar Radius TPD card to work with a non-card specific display. I made minor progress hooking it up to the RGB BNC connectors on a multiscan TPD. Info there might give you a start. Dunno where the thread is. I didn't start it, but maybe I can find it if you can't.

 

[gpbonneau]

Have the same. I tried to plug a VGA LCD monitor (which works very well on all my Mac) I can move cursor and window on the second screen but I don't have picture.



I think you are right, it is not compatible, with the first option (Mobius One Page SE) on my LCD monitor, which detect a signal, I can see something on setup OSD (1152x870, sync H68.8 and V75.0), but the screen remain black. 



With the second option, I have "out of limit" on screen and noting on the OSD.

And according to Mobius manual :

 

[westcoastech]

Hi guys

I do not have a monitor from that machine unfortunately. I bought the SE on eBay and didn't even know it had an add on card until it arrived and it took it all apart to clean the machine. It seems it was a type of wild west with these accelerator and add on cards back in day?

Does anyone have any ideas or info on that second card perchance?  

 

[JT737]

Hey westcoasttech,your second card looks like a video card for an SE/30, judging by the size of the bus in the pictures.  Kinda reminds me of the Interware VD-R1 video card that I have that I can't quite get to work!  I also have a Raster Ops 264/SE30; I've never seen something like what you've got here.

If you're interested in selling it, let me know  

 

[Funkotronic]

Hi folks - it's been a decade or more since I've been here, 68K has not been my prime focus. Going to resurrect this thread, it turns out I actually have one of these. Attached are some pix for good chip ID, and here is the data sheet for the FPGA chips in question.

TPC1010AFN-044 datasheet - CMOS Field-programmable ...Digchiphttps://www.digchip.com › datasheets › parts › TPC10...

 

[Funkotronic]

This is the base SE/30 that I had just dug out a couple of weeks ago and looked at closely for the first time. Turns out it has an upgrade card in it w/a DB15 connect. Assumed it was video, and boo-yah: Twin FPGAs and a cornfield of VRAM! OK, so now I need a reason to grab one of those MacEffects clear cases, and dammit they're sold out. There was one on eBay for $700, so I helped him sell it on eBay and spent the $275 for the transparent blue version direct from MacEffects. Apparently there are no photos of the blue case on the intertoobz, so I'll share some once it's built. So just to put it all together, I'll run a separate color display in a clear case, I'll see if I can dye or illuminate it to match the SE/30. And yes it will have lights... sooo many lights. But to be clear, many of these will be hidden to simply illuminate the components. The clear monitor I'll be using is pictured, the other two colorful machines are just some of the few photos that I could find of the clear case in colors.

 

[Funkotronic]

Hi Everyone

I have two add-on cards for the Macintosh SE and/or SE/30 that I hope to get a bit of help identifying. I had confirmed they worked when I removed them from the original machines a long time ago but I did not record the information and I no longer have a machine to use at this moment.

From the searching I have done I found another thread on here actually and this one card was best guessed to be a Mobius 030 card but I thought would be best to include it here and could maybe have it identified for sure. The one card was missing a few chips in the picture on the other thread. The other card has the writing Color SE30 A13 Generation X and 1989 Memory Plus COGAM-4 REV B in the lower corner.

Here are the pictures of the possibly Mobius 030 card

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This is the Color Card

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Thanks for any help everyone!!!

Necropost! Rise from the dead, thread! Another has been found, wheee