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Mac II - Won't start after being in a foot of water

pjeigh

Member
Yep, I kept my Mac II going great for years, temporarily had it on my basement floor and it flooded. Completely submerged the Mac II and likely some of the monitor as well. Cables stayed nice and dry in a freezer bag.

It won't even make the nice starting chime, although the monitor sounds and looks like it wants to work up. Some of the case's inner metal got a little rusty but nothing else looks rusty,

Any suggestions for either

a) getting the Mac II running again without investing a fortune in lots of little parts or

B) finding a good home for someone who has the resources to revive it?

 

II2II

Well-known member
If it was flood-water, chances are that the water wasn't clean. That means trouble.

I would suggest pulling the whole thing apart. Pull out the socketed chips too, just record which sockets they came from. Give the mainboard, case, trays, and bracket a good shower. Let the mainboard and case dry. Maybe you'll give it a week to dry out, or maybe you'll use a hair dryer. Just make sure it is completely dry. You may want to pull the power supply apart too, and do the same. In the case of the PSU enclosure and the metal trays/brackets, it's probably best to dry them off with a towel.

Once everything is good and dry, reassemble it without adding the floppy drive or hard drice. It may work. If it does work, you'll probably still need a new ard dive and floppy drive. If it doesn't work, its probably a power supply issue.

 

Unknown_K

Well-known member
Just water from the storm drain backing up? How long was it under water? Can you take a picture?

I would gut it and wash it to get rid of anything the water carried and then dry it. Most likely the floppies will need lubed and some capacitors might need replaced.

Oh yea and the PRAM batteries are probably shorted out (soldered on correct?).

 

pjeigh

Member
Yep, just water from the basement drain backing up (ground water from around the house).

I think it was under water less than 10 hours - not sure since I wasn't home when it happened. (Most of the stuff in the water was from my basement, so a lot of mushy paper and cardboard and not so much dirt).

Yep, the battery is soldered on. No photos yet but I'll post some soon.

 

register

Well-known member
Such machine can be rescued by cleaning and drying, probably with some losses concerning the harddisk drive.

Never try to start a wet computer. Make sure the computer is disconnected from any (line) voltage supply and remove any battery. The battery will be discharged and has a bad tendency to leak corrosive agent.

Dismantle the computer to remove traces of mud trapped between parts, using a shower.

Soak and rinse everything in deionised water (as available for steam ironing).

Dry everything quickly and completely; best in a container together with an appropriate amount of dried silica gel, if not available with a fan. Do avoid excessive use of heat, as you may damage plastic parts. Afterwards check for visible damages, reassemble the poor thing and try if it will work again.

The hard disk drive will need separate treatment if it is affected from the water and the data on the platter is of interest. In case the data is very valuable, immediately call for professional data recovery. In case you do not mind, dump the drive and get another one. In case you will try to rescue data on you own, try this: open the disc drive case (preferably in a clean, dust free environment). Do not touch or dismantle any of the movable parts inside. Soak and rinse it completely with deionised water. Dry it quickly and completely in a container together with dryed silica gel, but no fan, as it would contaminate the drive with loads of dust. Reassemble the dried drive and connect it to a computer prepared to immediately make a backup of the stored data (in case you are lucky and the drive mounts).

Good luck :)

P.S.: Drying the machine uses time, let it be in the closed drying container for a week and make sure the water absorbing agent itself is working, i.e. enough of that stuff and dry enough to work. I successfully used some pounds of the silica gel bags used in the computer equipment boxes for shipping and storing. You can get vast amounts of this stuff in computer shops which sell customized PCs.

 
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