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Inexpensive USB2 & SATA card recommendations . . .

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
There's no USB2.0 support under OS 9. I'm not sure of the situation with SATA cards, but a little searching would probably turn up something. Try xlr8yourmac and the apple support forums

Sata card recommendations?

Get a couple cheap Sil3512 based cards / and flash them with wiebetech TCS1-1 firmware.No drivers to install, bootable. Only down side is only two ports and no OS 9 compatibility.
You could also try trawling the sonnettech support pages, and see if they ever made a suitable card.

You're likely to have more luck with Firewire, IMHO - and FW-SATA adapters - or plain-jane PATA.

 
If you're running at least Tiger, my experience is that almost any cheap-o USB 2.0 card for PCs will work just fine in a Mac.

Virtually any FireWire 400 card will work fine.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Trash don't do OS X
You got dat right! :approve:

I'll look into all the different SATA <-> whatever adapters and install one. It took over two hours to back up a 16 GB KeyChain drive to the QS'02 . . .

. . . and something like three freakin' hours using an identical powered USB2 bridge attached to the 466 DA. ::)

BLEH! [xx(] ]'>

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
No OS X? How can you stand it?!
Easily! I've got, literally, over fifteen thousand dollars worth of vertical market CAD/CAM software alone from my sign business. It works fine, I know how to use it and it requires a 9.2.2 world (or less!) and I'm NOT about to upgrade Illustrator, Freehand, the rest of my graphics suite and all the rest of my productivity software when running what I've got under 9.x is plenty good enough! [;)] ]'>

I'm doin' the ubuntu thing to stretch the noggin' out a little bit and all of that software is FREE!

I can't wait to get the GIMPbox up and running! [:D] ]'>

 

protocol7

Well-known member
My only experience with a USB2 card upgrade was in a PM G4. The only one that could be picked up off-the-shelf was a generic PC one with a Via chip. Turned out to be useless. It was for a USB2 external drive that was to be used for backups. Trouble was, the drive would only mount maybe one out of every 10 times. It worked fine with the built-in USB ports. Even the Via drivers didn't help. But this was with Tiger too.

 

quinterro

Well-known member
I have had success with NEC-based USB2 cards. But as others have mentioned they only work at USB2 speeds in MacOS X 10.2.8+.

The only exception I have had to a working NEC-based card was a Belkin 5-port card. Worked well in Windows but it would cause lockups in MacOS X.

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
I'll look into all the different SATA whatever adapters / to back up a 16 GB KeyChain
That's a USB flash drive? I don't think there are any SATA->USB converters, only USB->SATA. More likely to find a FW->USB converter. I think the MiniStack drive has this feature.

System Requirements / an available USB 2.0/1.1 or FireWire 400 port.
You *could* I guess boot into OS X for a file transfer at USB2.0 speeds, then reboot into OS 9 for the rest of your work. Just avert your eyes :p

Or indeed Linux. Heck, run MacOnLinux with Ubuntu PPC for the best of both worlds.

protocol7: sounds like you got a flaky card.

 

protocol7

Well-known member
I assumed at the time that any card would do, but when I started hitting all these problems I did some reading around and found a lot of talk about Via chipsets being troublesome. NEC chips seem to be far more reliable, but finding one locally wasn't gonna happen.

 

bizzle

Well-known member
There's no USB2.0 support under OS 9. I'm not sure of the situation with SATA cards, but a little searching would probably turn up something. Try xlr8yourmac and the apple support forums
Sata card recommendations?

Get a couple cheap Sil3512 based cards / and flash them with wiebetech TCS1-1 firmware.No drivers to install, bootable. Only down side is only two ports and no OS 9 compatibility.
More info please.

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
I don't have any, sorry bizzle. Best to ask MacJunky

More likely to find a FW->USB converter. I think the MiniStack drive has this feature.
System Requirements / an available USB 2.0/1.1 or FireWire 400 port.
Don't go buying that on my say-so. Google so far has turned up exactly nothing that converts a USB device to a Firewire port.

For a zero-cost solution, stick the USB drive into HP_Mini and FTP the files to your Mac over the LAN

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
By chance I dropped a NEC based generic USB2 card in a graphite G4 running OS 9. Worked fine without drivers, it loaded a USB2 flash stick but I didn't test the speed, although it didn't work in a dual 1.8ghz G5 PCI (not the PCI-X model). This is the model $13 CAD http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=003053&cid=IOC.313.574
Thanks for the lead! I'll get two! [:D] ]'>

Have you tried connecting your QS to you DA with a Firewire and Target Disk Mode?
Two different studios, in two different rooms on two different floors . . . and no Firewire cables . . . so . . . no! [;)] ]'>

 

mac-man6

Well-known member
Just looked at the box, it's Bytecc. Apple System Profiler recognized the card but I can't tell if you if was running at USB2 speeds. But it didn't crash the mac so that's a plus!

 
VIA cards are a problem because they use UHCI and not OHCI, or something like that. However I think starting with Tiger, UHCI is supported.

VIA is the only on who makes crap UHCI cards, so just avoid that chip and you'll be OK.

If a card is OHCI/EHCI (the USB 2.0 portion is EHCI) it will work in OS 9 but it won't work at the USB 2 speeds. Everything will work as OHCI and therefore 1.1 speeds.

 

protocol7

Well-known member
VIA cards are a problem because they use UHCI and not OHCI, or something like that. However I think starting with Tiger, UHCI is supported.
That makes sense. And now that I think back, that G4 was running Panther and not Tiger.

 
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