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IIx ROM/RAM schematic

bear

Well-known member
Two cranky IIxes.

First one doesn't chime (death or otherwise), but rather continually plays random crackly static noises that sound like they are probably the first fraction of a second of one chime or another. ROM SIMM, 030, 68881, sound chip, etc. all okay. Haven't found anything wrong in the ROM/RAM circuitry (yet). Will probably have to check the I/O circuitry next.

Second one wouldn't chime, but would give the chime of death if the SIMMs were removed, or parity SIMMs were installed, so I knew that the RESET and clock circuits were good, plus address/data lines to the ROM SIMM. Isolated and repaired two failed traces in the DRAM control circuit -- one in the address decoder (A21 - UH15 to 68030), the other activating the outputs on the flip flop that controls write enable and selects the correct address lines (UH14 to RP9) -- which brings me to a consistent chime of death (it's progress!).

Here's a schematic diagram of the memory circuitry on the IIx. I traced this out from my boards (and used it to identify the problems on the second board). Maybe it will help somebody.

http://www.typewritten.org/Projects/Apple/gfx/macintosh-iix-memory-copy-outline.svg

FWIW the most likely culprits for rotted traces seem to be between the 68030 (green) and the various 74-series chips (pink), and traces associated with RP9. These are the traces which run the length of the board, or right past (or under!) leaky SMT caps. You can use this diagram to identify if one of them is open-circuit, then you can track it out between vias to find which specific section of that trace is bad. Second most likely culprit seems to be traces terminating at UG11.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Very nice, have you got a high resolution version available? I can't quite make it out from the one in the link. That would be a great guide for what I'd like to accomplish for the IIsi and Q605!

 

mcdermd

Well-known member
I thought that svg would scale cleanly in your favorite image viewer (it's vector, after all).

 

bear

Well-known member
Firefox, for example, doesn't seem to give any indication that you can zoom in or out on it, but if you press control-plus or control-minus, it will indeed zoom in and out.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Inkscape is downloading as I type this. AI9 on OS9 doesn't place SVG, so I've got some new software to play with on the NetTop and the NetBooks under 7 and ubuntu! [:)] ]'>

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
SVG rendering in Firefox must be part of Flash or something else I refuse to allow on my main machine. The graphic works fine at work, but at home .svg scales like a .jpg so the .txt is unreadable.

First download of Inkscape was a bust, but the second try was the charm. Imported the file, exported .eps and zipped it over to the Pismo. looks great, but renders very sluggishly in AI9 under OS9.

I'm lovin' your schematic, bear. It nicely illustrates the building blocks Apple used in the Memory Controller ASICs of later Macs.

Great work, props-n-thanks! :approve:

p.s. I guess I'll be one of the veteran AI folks mentioned on inkscape.org who find adoption to be problematic. Luckily I don't have that issue with the GIMP because I've never been a Photoshop pirat . . . user. [:)] ]'>

 
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