How do we Classify Conquests...

[Mars478]

So I've been thinking.

What is an EPIC OMG ELEVENTY Conquest, and what is a small conquest.

How do we categorize these conquests?

I read a thread about a Mac Plus conquest with Keyboard Mouse and External floppy and he said, Oh I know a Mac Plus is a small conquest.

I would've though that was an OMG EPIC ELEVENTY Conquest!

Wow, thanks for your help in sorting this out.

 

[Dog Cow]

It's the ratio of how desirable/rare the item(s) were, compared to how much money was dispensed, multiplied by the total number of items received.

 

[Nico]

LOL, that would've been me you're talking about.

I guess the fact you bring this point up already proves that this is a very subjective thing. In my view, the Plus is a pretty common machine. I see it on auctions all the time, it was one of the most popular Macs ever and the longest one in production, so my guess is there are many people who still have a Plus stashed away somewhere. Also, its use is fairly limited compared to some of the other Macs I have, and the fact that I didn't have to put any effort into getting it, are all reasons why I might be a bit under-appreciative for this particular conquest.

On the other hand, someone else might go "Oh my god, a complete, fully functioning, well preserved, vintage '86 Mac Plus?! That's totally frickin' awesome!". I can fully understand such an opinion, but again it depends a lot on your point of view. Which is why I think you can't really categorize conquests into distinct awesomeness-levels.

 

[Dog Cow]

Which is why I think you can't really categorize conquests into distinct awesomeness-levels.

For other people, that is. For yourself, then yes. I have definitely had some conquests higher on the "w00tness" level than others.

 

[Mars478]

Yeah I agree. Yes Nico it was you.

I do think a Mac Plus is epic because I don't have a working Compact (yet-- A 512k is on its way to me )

But I found a keyboard and mouse in a hardware store, thats a small conquest on my scale.

 

[4seasonphoto]

For me, a mini-epic would be scoring a sealed box of 10 Apple-brand 400K floppy disks with the Picasso artwork, because they seldom come up for sale.

 

[Mars478]

For me, a mini-epic would be scoring a sealed box of 10 Apple-brand 400K floppy disks with the Picasso artwork, because they seldom come up for sale.

That would be very awesome. But some guy on eBay is selling a box of empty floppies.

 

[Unknown_K]

I guess it depends on what you get into. Somebody who doesn't much like compacts won't think a conquest of a dozen SE/30's is a big deal while others would drool over it. Some people might not consider anything you had to pay for a conquest, others might if it was a super deal, and some don't care about the money at all. Also depends on how hard the items are to find.

My best single conquest (all for free) was many years ago getting the following:

Q950, yellowed 160MB RAM

WGS950, brand new looking with a never opened A/UX software set.

A shelf full of boxed software for 68k

Large SCSI tower with MO drive and some 9GB video drives (also boxes of new MO media)

A couple Radius Rockets and misc Nubus cards

A local lawyer also gave me a bunch of stuff (over a few months period) including a Q950/Supermac 20" monitor, SE, stack of wallstreet parts I made into 5 machines, tons of boxed software, misc drives, an Xp2000+ PC, LC 550, SE/30 case, etc.

I hooked a guy up with somebody ditching a huge load of old macs and he sent me (free of charge) an SE/30 with ethernet and 128MB RAM out of that lot.

Heck finding a local 9600/350 for $15 or so was a good conquest for me, people don't like giving those up and shipping is expensive.

A guy who noticed I was looking for mac IIx's sent me a pair just for shipping, they needed recapped but the cases are in very nice condition and IIx's are probably the hardests mac II's to find (so are original II's that havn't been upgraded with IIfx boards).

And I would like to thank Cory5412 for shipping me an Amiga 3000 from a guy in AZ who was dumping equipment to move out of state a few years back, no way would I spend the going rate for one of those with a video card and ethernet.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

Well, it depends on your definition of 'conquest', first.

To me, there are three categories:

1. Something you purchased. For any price. I'd call these "a conquest", because you had to work for it. Even paying $5 at Goodwill would make it fall in this category. Obviously, within the category, the value is what classifies it. Paying $5 at Goodwill for a perfect condition 128 complete with all accessories would be one heck of a score.

2. Something you got for free; but that was not going to be thrown away. I'd call these "a transfer". Most of these would be the trades that occur via these forums, or similar. You got it for no cost; but the previous person wasn't going to throw it away if you didn't take it.

3. Something you got for free, rescuing it from certain destruction in the process. These are the "liberations" or "rescues". These can range from getting a computer a school was about to throw away from someone you know in the IT department all the way to physically pulling a system out of a dumpster.

 

[Dog Cow]

2. Something you got for free; but that was not going to be thrown away. I'd call these "a transfer". Most of these would be the trades that occur via these forums, or similar. You got it for no cost; but the previous person wasn't going to throw it away if you didn't take it.

Well, that definition lowers my conquest count by quite a lot, then. Darn. :-/

 

[Gil]

What is an EPIC OMG ELEVENTY Conquest,

IMO,

-A vintage Apple branded item, that is sealed/new-in-box.

-An Apple-branded or 3rd party product that is widely considered "rare" amongst enthusiasts.

-A vintage Apple computer that comes with original box, and/or packing materials, and original software disks and documentation (not necessarily new in box, or sealed)

Kinda redundant, but that's what I consider to be an "Epic" conquest.

 

[Mike Richardson]

3. Something you got for free, rescuing it from certain destruction in the process. These are the "liberations" or "rescues". These can range from getting a computer a school was about to throw away from someone you know in the IT department all the way to physically pulling a system out of a dumpster.

I did a dumpster pull once. It was back in 2007 at Spring Branch ISD. I had purchased several lots of Macs from the auctions but arrived late to pick up the last pallet. They said whatever wasn't claimed would be thrown away, so we checked the dumpster. My pallet wasn't thrown away, but I saw a Workgroup Server 8150 just casually tossed in there, as well as a 5400/180 motherboard. We came back the next morning (at 8 AM when they opened, to ensure our pallet wasn't thrown away) and collected the pallet.

 

[macgeek417]

I guess it depends on what you get into. Somebody who doesn't much like compacts won't think a conquest of a dozen SE/30's is a big deal while others would drool over it. Some people might not consider anything you had to pay for a conquest, others might if it was a super deal, and some don't care about the money at all. Also depends on how hard the items are to find.

I would drool over one SE/30.

It's my most-wanted 68k.

 

[MrMacPlus]

An "eleventy" conquest happened to me at least once: when I volunteered at a recycling drive and was able to literally intercept a very nice SE before it got put into the "truck of death", that's a true conquest. :beige:

 

[vassilizaitsev]

I thought that we didn't have rules on what a conquest is & I thought it's best this way....

If we are a 68k liberation army then any 68k machine that we liberate...

I just took the conqest thing as a bit jokey & would like to see it stay that way. Not that it's not a great thing, not that I don't approve, but just let people be happy that they feel like they have done the conquest thing..... even if they bought thier computer for £100 from ebay (Not the amount I'd spend, but the realistic amount to pay is discussed often here & rightly so and we help each other in this way).

I just didn't mind people waffling on sometimes, cos they were being happy & saying happy things & if they want to say conquest then who am I to stand in thier way??? :b&w:

 

[Temetka]

For me it breaks down two ways that may or may not go hand in hand.

1. The rarity of the item in question

2. The amount of wanting that item the person has.

I have been wanting a 2400c for many years. If I were to acquire a working one that would qualify as an epic conquest.

Another epic conquest would a Genesis or MaxxBox.

Anything else falls in between cool and freakin' awesome.

Epic is on another level all its own.

 

[Mars478]

Hahahah. Very nice.