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Finally... a Quadra 840AV

Zeliard

Member
Hello fellow MLAers! :)

After many years of eBay researching i've finally found and won the bidding for a Quadra 840AV which was always "the" Macintosh i wanted to have in my collection. Living in Germany, it's not that easy to get one because they are very uncommon here and most of them are already in collectors possession. Because of that i was willing to pay more than i usually would for such an old Mac.

Well, the moment arrived and i won the auction for around $110US. Bummer. That's a lot of cash, i thought. But i knew it would be worth the price.

So after two weeks of waiting, the package was finally delivered to me. It was quite a moment of joy when i opened and took out the badly packaged Quadra but things got worse from here..

This little Quadra was a smoker's machine. But that's not the problem. Judging by the eBay pictures i thought it just had a yellowered case when in reality, it was covered in dirt, on the inside and outside (some pictures: VRAM ports, inner case).

So before testing the machine, i took it apart to give it an in-depth cleaning. There was the next shock for me. Many plastic parts were broken off and littered around the mainboard. Luckily nothing that couldn't be fixed. But there was also a "ProNitron" graphics card which became loose. Because i wanted to use the internal video anyway, i just put the card away and concentrated on cleaning the mainboard. Then i noticed this: Click. Turned out that the card ruined some circuits near the DSP chip. Damn. Thinking that this Mac died before i could even use it was making me nervous. So when i put it together and turned it on there was a short moment of relief. It booted, with sound! But there was no happy Mac, it just seemed to stop before that, showing the grey screen. The Mouse was already there and even working. So what could it be? Booting again and zapping the PRAM didn't work. It just stopped and nothing happened.

Well, the next step was to try something different. I connected an old external SCSI drive to the Mac, hoping it would do something. And it did. Finally a smiling Mac and it booted properly to the desktop with no problems. It even showed the internal hard drives. Yay! I spent the next hour testing the machine especially it's AV functions and everything seemed to work. Well, everything except booting the interal hard drive without having an external SCSI device connected to the Mac. It really just boots from the internal hard drive when there's a device connected to the SCSI port. It doesn't even have to be turned on. Very strange.

Oh well, i guess i should be happy that the mac still works until i can fix that circuit problem. :) I already maxed out it's RAM and it really works great. Very fast, too. Still have to contact the seller. I'm really curios what he has to say about his packaging methods...

I apologize for my bad spelling.

 

register

Well-known member
Sounds like bad SCSI termination. As it belongs to the damaged circuits: You could remove the protective coating around the damaged portion (use a scalpel to scrape the copper clean) and apply some solder with an ultra fine pencil iron, good light and a magnifying glass. Remove any of the soldering flux afterwards, with flux remover or acetone on cotton swabs, to prevent corrosion caused by vagabonding ions.

 

Unknown_K

Well-known member
I got a IIcx in like that recently, had to strip it and wash everything. Smells nice now.

That scratch doesn't look like it broke any traces, so you should be safe.

 

Zeliard

Member
Well, i checked it again and it looks much worser through a magnifying glass :) . The lowest circuit is definitely damaged. The other ones seem to be fine.

I don't have the equipment to solder them anyway at the moment, so i'll have to do that later.

Luckily there aren't any serious problems until now, the Quadra runs stable.

 

Bolle

Well-known member
I´ve got a spare 840AV mobo in case yours is completely dead...

meh btw... 110 bucks is a little bit much i think. even here in germany.

 
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aphetica

Well-known member
Wow. That looks really bad. I hope you can work something out with the seller.

Did you ever try putting a wanted ad up on 68kmla? Maybe someone has one that they would let go cheaper than on eBay.

 

dpatten

Well-known member
There is a conductive copper paint specifically for reparing damaged traces. You simply peel back a bit of mask to reveal undamaged copper, mask the sides and paint it on.

Another thing might be to simply run a magwire between the two solder pads that the trace connects.

 

Byrd

Well-known member
It's disappointing that after all your time and money spent the 840AV was treated (and posted?) so badly.

Looking at your picture of PCB damage, only one track is broken which should be fairly easy to repair (scrape back some of the copper tracing with a scalpel, and use something like a conductive ink pen to repair the broken track). A pin also comes in handy here to clean up any excess.

My eBay 840AV was bashed around too, but sold as such as it cost me ~ $30 AUD in the end. I'm going to put a 8X SCSI burner in the top slot. So far it's loaded wtih 128MB/9 + 18GB HD, a good Supermac graphics card and a 10/100 ethernet card.

Hope you get yours fixed,

JB

 

Zeliard

Member
Bolle sold me his spare board (thanks again!) so the problem should be gone soon and i feel much better this way :) .

 
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