File/disk exchange Windows <-> Macintosh

[BL!]

I'm struggling with getting software on my SE/30. I've installed StuffIt!, WinImage and MacDrive on my PC. I have no problems writing a .image file with WinImage and installing from that (OS diskettes for example) but extracting .hqx, .sea, .bin etc. is not working and I can't copy them in such a way that when I insert the diskette into the Macintosh they are executable files.

Any ideas?

Any good and thorough tutorial out there that I've missed?

TIA!

 

[LaPorta]

Yes, since you can get files in some form onto the Mac, you can likely get .img files of Mac Stuffit and BinHex which will be able to decode those for you. It depends on what versions of Stuffit created the original archive: if they were created by a new version of Stuffit, the older versions that will run on the SE/30 won't be able to open them.

To start off: what version of System Software is the SE/30 running? I can then get you images of Stuffit and BinHex to use to make disks for the SE/30. It will then be a much easier process to just copy files and decompress them on the Mac itself.

 

[BL!]

Right now I think I have 6.0.8 installed (but I aim higher when I've got a library of software available and TCP/IP running (can't get my Asanté MacCon+ TK/TP going)).

 

[LaPorta]

Ok, I can hook you up with some stuff that should get you off the ground. Send me a PM with your email address.

 

[BL!]

Great!

 

[Mu0n]

Here's my process:

On a Windows 10 machine:

-download a..hqx or .bin off the internet

-use HFVExplorer to copy into a working virtual hard disk (.hfv) that has been installed properly with System 7.5.3

-Open the Basilisk II emulator to read the virtual hard disk

-Extract the file with stuffit, mount it virtually inside the emulator

-Copy the contents of the virtual image disk to a folder inside the virtual hard disk inside the emulator

-Close the emulator

-Open HFVExplorer back up

-Copy the contents of the extracted image disk to a physical 1.44 mb mac formatted disk through a USB disk drive

On the SE/30

-Bring the disk over and profit!

 

[dochilli]

I do the same like MuOn but with Mini VMac and HFVExplorer with Windows 7 and the .dsk files. I copy the files in MiniVMac to an empty 1.4MB .dsk file. Then I open this file in HFVExplorer and copy it physically to a disk. This was the only way for me to get software on my SE/30. Then I copied DiskCopy 4.2, 6 and Stuffit 5.5 to the mac.

Today I use my Networkcard in the SE/30 to get Software from the internet. This is the easiest way to get files uncorrupted to the mac.

For networkcards in the SE/30 you may not use automatic DNS. I had to use manual installation of IP adress an so on. It may be necessary to use an old 10Mbit Hub when you want to connect to a modern DSL router.

 

[Mu0n]

It can be frustrating to get a working emulating environment running on your windows machine since you'll see System versions as compressed hqx out there leading to a chicken and egg situation.

The very first step is landing an already prepped virtual disk with System 7 installed with at the very least Stuffit 5.5 and hopefully Disk Image 6 so you can get all the other utilities.

 

[LaPorta]

That Stuffit issue is annoying. I have gone back and re-compressed all of my archives with 1.5.1 to ensure compatibility with the older System 6 Stuffits.

 

[desiv]

Here's my process:

-download a..hqx or .bin off the internet

-use HFVExplorer to copy into a working virtual hard disk (.hfv) that has been installed properly with System 7.5.3

[SIZE=1.4rem].....[/SIZE]

[SIZE=1.4rem]-Copy the contents of the extracted image disk to a physical 1.44 mb mac formatted disk through a USB disk drive[/SIZE]

-Bring the disk over and profit!

I am doing something similar...

For some reason, I didn't think of using the floppy directly in HFVExplorer.

I've just been taking the disk image I am using in mini vMac and writing that image to a USB floppy.

Currenty, my USB floppy drive (I got it cheap on e-bay) doesn't work in Windows 10 as a floppy.  (if I put a formatted FAT disk in there, Windows won't see it.) 

But it works fine for me to write images to...  (Which is all I really got it for anyway.)  I'll try it in HFVExplorer with a Mac formatted floppy and see what it does.

Sometimes, I don't need HFVExplorer, as I can copy the files directly to mini vMac (using importfl).

But that doesn't always seem to work for me.  It copies the files, but I can't always expand them.

I think it has to do with the embedded file associations.  (SIT!, SITx, etc.) I am still working on getting a handle on those.  ;-)  

I did think about using my Kryoflux to do this early on, but that process is NOT simple.  And Kryoflux and Win10 are tricky to keep happy together.

desiv

 

[olePigeon]

That Stuffit issue is annoying. I have gone back and re-compressed all of my archives with 1.5.1 to ensure compatibility with the older System 6 Stuffits.

Since Stuffit Expander 4.0.1 is available on Gryphel and works fine (with one caveat) on System 6, I like to use DropStuff 4.0.

 

[LaPorta]

I'm sure that works well, too. I just figure there is always an off chance that some ancient copy of Stuffit is sitting on any said machine, and having the archives in original format would just make it easier.

 

[desiv]

Yep, HFVExplorer works with my USB floppy drive directly in Win10. 

It didn't at first.  I could hear the drive spin as it loaded, so I thought it was checking.  But only showed it blank.  Even if I tried to reload the disk.  It showed A:, but always showed it empty.

I went into the Options menu and found a setting about floppy checking at start time.  Weird, because I thought it was, but I enabled it.

Restarted...

There are my files.

I also fired up Basilisk II and yep, it can read the floppy directly also. (I have to do the (ctrl-shift-F11) to get it to see it.)

I figure I will use that for anything that is compressed with a version of Stuffit I can't run on my System 6 builds. ;-)

So that should make transferring files nicer...

So that USB Floppy works with everything I need it to.  Just not directly in Win10.  ;-)   (I'm sure I just would have to load a driver, but as I don't need it (or haven't), I think I'll wait.)