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Ethertalk on Apple II?

gavo

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I can probably guess the answer to this, but.... did/do any of ethernet cards that were released for the Apple II series support Ethertalk (i.e. Appletalk over ethernet)?

Cheers,

 

luddite

Host of RetroChallenge
No, I'm afraid there's no such thing... If you're looking to transfer files ADT Pro works with the Uther card. Another option is to run a web server and use Contiki to grab files.

 

Aoresteen

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You can get the AIIe network card that uses Local Talk connectors and share ProDos files to an AppleShare 2.0.1 server. Works well.

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It one reason I run AppleShare 2.0.1 on an SE/30.

 

II2II

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Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.

Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs).

Yes, I know this is cheating because you won't get ethernet speeds. But at least you can interface an Apple IIgs to newer hardware or non-Apple hardware.

 

gavo

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Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.
Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs).
Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot.

I suppose this approach (the adaptor) would work with an Apple II series workstation card as well? I think I'll go google localtalk to ethertalk adaptors :)

Cheers,

 

macdownunder

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Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot.
I did try a couple of years ago and couldn't get anything on the Apple ][ to work when connected to an Apple Network Server running Yellowdog Linux 2.1 and Netatalk (the Mac side all worked as expected).

I suspect that we're limited to Appleshare 3.x for booting an Apple ][ over the network.

Regards,

Macdownunder

 

II2II

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I never tried booting the Apple IIgs from netatalk (think I tried AppleShare server 2.x at one point though). If you have trouble with the 2.x series of netatalk, then try 1.6 since that is what I was using at the time. While I think they retained Apple II compatability in the 2.x series, it may take some tweaking.

 

luddite

Host of RetroChallenge
Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe.

 

II2II

Well-known member
Netbooting GS/OS allows you to load more functionality without an expensive hard drive controller. Since I've heard that the speed is comparable to a floppy diskette, you also remove the need to juggle floppies.

I'm not sure how netbooting would even work on a IIe, but I could imagine it being useful in schools. I remember the process of signing out a folder with the floppies while doing stuff in a Jr. High computer course. In retrospect, that was probably done to avoid having stuff walk off. (Even if there is no ill intent, teens forget.)

 

gavo

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Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe.
Yes, well, actually, now that I think about it - I'd say it would be way down on my options list for practical use in 2008 - I think a CFFA card or something would be much more useful - but for something to do on a rainy day, could be a laugh to play with this stuff :)

I personally never saw it used in production.

Cheers,

 
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