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Compact Desktop Power Supply Capacitor Lists (by make and model)

jessenator

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In an effort to keep this all together, and start with a much more organized topic, here it is: 

Compact Desktop Power Supply Capacitor Lists (by make and model)

The models tagged, the IIci, IIcx, IIvi, IIvx, Performa 600, Quadra/Centris 650 and Quadra 700 all use the same form-factor PSU, only with varying max output as well as encompassing a number of manufacturers and models. @Franklinstein gave me the idea to create a topic dedicated to re-capping those power supplies and a central list/collection for each make/model that's been used. This is not meant to downplay ATX modification or indeed the mAcTX project which is very cool! This thread is for those who want to keep their stock PSUs and just want to re-cap them.

I'll start with my own, the GE Power 9T89Y5005G11 (out of a Quadra 700). Here's a capacitor list for the three boards inside also with their dimensions (+/- .5mm or so in some cases)

GE Power 9T89Y5005G11 (~200 KB PDF download)

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Feel free to contribute your capacitor lists in this thread, and if there are any errors, please let the author(s) know so they can be rectified.

 

Fizzbinn

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I'm game! I have several of these power supplies (2 not working right) and pretty sure they all could use a recap.  What program did you use to create your doc? Can you possibly share as a template? (I really like the look)

IIci #1

ASTEC - Working

Model Number: AA15831

Apple Part Number: 614-0004

IIci #2 (parts machine)

ASTEC - Flaky

Model Number: AA15830

Apple Part Number: 699-0392

Quadra 700

GE - Flaky

Model Number: 9T89Y5005G11

Apple Part Number: 699-0392

Centris 650

ASTEC - Working

Model Number: AA16870

Apple Part Number: 614-0009

PM 7100 (part from eBay)

Delta - Working

Model Number: SMP-120EB

Apple Part Number: 614-0009

 

jessenator

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I'm game! I have several of these power supplies (2 not working right) and pretty sure they all could use a recap.  What program did you use to create your doc? Can you possibly share as a template? (I really like the look)
Thanks! I actually used Illustrator. I suppose I could save it as an SVG? that's possibly the most compatible version. That's always the dilemma: the most compatible file type...

 

Fizzbinn

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I verified your GE Power Supply (9T89Y5005G11) doc against the same model I have, unsurprisingly/reassuringly they match up value wise. (My 10µf - 16V caps are ~10mm high though, not that it really matters).

Here's my Mouser parts list:

2 x 470µf - 200V w:22mm h:45mm = 647-UPT2D471MRD (w:22mm h:40mm)
4 x 2200µf - 10V w:16mm h:30mm = 647-UPJ1A222MHD (w:12.5mm h:25mm)
2 x 2200µf - 16V w:16mm h:25mm = 647-UPJ1C222MHD6 (w:16mm h:20mm)
2 x 220µf - 16V w:9mm h:15mm = 647-UPJ1C221MPD (w:8mm h:11.5mm)
4 x 10µf - 16V w:5mm h:10mm = 647-UPW1C100MDD1TD (w:5mm h:11mm)

Under "Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Radial Leaded" I basically filter on "In Stock", the capacitance and voltage with Nichicon as the manufacture. Next I add the diameter (or smaller if exact is not available) and try to get 105 C max temp. 5000 Hour parts. Often I'm left with a few options still and I then mainly pick on lowest cost. Curious how others select their caps?

 

jessenator

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Curious how others select their caps?
I ordered all Nichicon caps haha. I know it's not always feasible to do it that way, but I know that feeling. We were chatting on IRC today about that very thing. I try to filter as much as possible before I look at a insurmountable list of components: that's kind of why I put the dimensions of the caps in the list as it's one more way to sort out the weeds—thanks for the clarification on that one cap, and the comparison overall btw! The more I can narrow it down, the less overwhelmed I feel. I assume there are a few more spec/features to consider (ripple current), but I'm not an engineer :/  so I kinda hope and pray I got the right ones. 

Here's what I got for mine—hopefully no mistakes:

647-UVY2D471MRD

647-UKL1C222MHD
647-UTT1C221MPD


647-USP1C100MDD

I just ordered all of the 2200uF caps at 16V instead of the two at 10V. No harm in going up in voltage tolerance, especially when it's that small. Might've been a few more cents here and there as well.

 
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Fizzbinn

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My first addition following @jessenator's doc format:

ASTEC PS from Macintosh IIci

Model Number: AA15830

Apple Part Number: 699-0392

Annotated internal board images with capacitor specs including dimensions (+/- .5mm or so in some cases):

ASTEC PS AA15830

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jessenator

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Ya one-upped me by putting the actual board cap numbers on it ;)  good to see this is getting traction. I wish I had more supplies to compile. 

 

Franklinstein

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You've already got a good start. I don't currently have any that differ from the ones posted. Maybe we should get a master list based on the Apple part number since suppliers and their internal part numbers can differ with the same Apple part number (for example the above Q650 ASTEC and PM 7100 Delta units use the same Apple p/n 614-0009).

It's also interesting that the Q650 has the same higher-rated power supply as the 7100. I wonder when they made the switch? They're basically the same power supply as the older units except it's higher rated on the +5 (15A) and +12 (2.5A) lines and the fan is no longer easily removable. Could be a good idea to grab one of these if you've got an upgraded older model filled with cards.

 

Fizzbinn

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Maybe we should get a master list based on the Apple part number since suppliers and their internal part numbers can differ with the same Apple part number (for example the above Q650 ASTEC and PM 7100 Delta units use the same Apple p/n 614-0009).


In my initial list I did include the Apple part number in addition to the manufacture and the manufacture's model number. The labels are very consistent, referring to them as "Apple Part Number" and "Model Number" respectively, on all of the power supplies I have (5 different units but only 3 Apple part numbers).

For the ones I have, chronologically by Apple part number, it looks like:

Apple Part Number: 699-0392

Used in: IIci

Modular fan

- ASTEC - Model Number: AA15830

Apple Part Number: 614-0004

Used in: IIci, Q700

Modular fan

- ASTEC - Model Number: AA15831

- GE - Model Number: 9T89Y5005G11

Apple Part Number: 614-0009

Used in: C650, PM7100

Integrated fan, Higher power output

- ASTEC - Model Number: AA16870

- Delta - Model Number: SMP-120EB

It's also interesting that the Q650 has the same higher-rated power supply as the 7100. I wonder when they made the switch? They're basically the same power supply as the older units except it's higher rated on the +5 (15A) and +12 (2.5A) lines and the fan is no longer easily removable. Could be a good idea to grab one of these if you've got an upgraded older model filled with cards.


The labeled power output is also different on -12v, its oddly (to me) lower on the newer models with higher +5v and +12v

Apple Part Numbers 699-0392 and 614-0004:

+5V 1mA Continuous

+5V 12A

-12V 1.0A

+12V 1.5A

Apple Part Number 614-0009:

+5V 1mA Continuous

+5V 15A

-12V 0.6A

+12V 2.5A

 

jessenator

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I verified your GE Power Supply (9T89Y5005G11) doc against the same model I have, unsurprisingly/reassuringly they match up value wise. (My 10µf - 16V caps are ~10mm high though, not that it really matters).
Hey, I think I made a mistake on that GE supply.

So that tight cluster of medium tall blue caps... the green-labeled ones, which are C13 C14 C16 C20 they're not ALL 2200uf 10V ... there are two 1000uf 25V caps in there, and in my haste, I removed them all without checking which ones went where... @Fizzbinn or anyone else, do you mind checking yours to see if you can get a closer look to see which is which?

edit: I THINK these two are the 1000uf caps, but some confirmation would soothe my conscience :)  
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Edit 2: the PDF in the first post should be permalink, so I've updated it and will make sure if anything else changes to correct it.

 
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Fizzbinn

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You got it correct now, I just double checked mine (still soldered in place), I guess I didn’t look close enough before. The two closest to the corner (C20, C16) are the 2200uf 10v ones and two in the middle (C13, C14) are the 1000v 25v ones. 

 

jessenator

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You got it correct now, I just double checked mine (still soldered in place), I guess I didn’t look close enough before. The two closest to the corner (C20, C16) are the 2200uf 10v ones and two in the middle (C13, C14) are the 1000v 25v ones. 
Thanks for double-checking! Well, good(?) thing I need to order more crap :lol:  I never seem to be able to get everything I need in a single DigiKey/Mouser order :facepalm: 

 

Daniël

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I have taken apart my AA15831 to check if the capacitors are different from the AA15830, and I can confirm it is quite different. I have made three pictures, that I have added the values of the capacitors to. I forgot to take a picture where the Class Y Safety Capacitors of the top board are visible, so they are pointed to with arrows. They are RIFAs, and do look like they might puff up and let out the magic smoke at some point, so I made sure to note those, and the two other Class Y caps on the bottom board.

You can find the annotated pictures in this shared Google Drive folder.

EDIT: Mine doesn't have the height and width of the capacitors. I still need to buy callipers, but when I do, I'll desolder the capacitors one by one to check for that, and update the pictures accordingly.

 
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jessenator

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Thanks for that! Yeah, I wasn't sure how different the two would be, so that's good we have that model as well.

 

jessenator

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Got around to outlining the caps in the Delta SMP 120EB PSU. Had to add a couple colors to the list of circles, as there are several capacitance-matching caps that have different voltage ratings, and because of pedantry due diligence I included everything as indicated in the original equipment. Also, bear in mind this PSU might have copious amounts of (erratically placed) dry silicone adhesive, which can be tricky to get around. For the to J connectors on the main board (one to the fan, the other to the mains PCB), I used an Xacto knife and some IPA which somewhat softened it, but I had to take my time to avoid collateral damage.

Delta SMP 120EB Power Supply Capacitor List

 
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