Classic Vs Classic II

[uniserver]

I think if you compare the 2 machines by their processor you will find that you have much more respect for the Classic.

originally sold for(1990):US$999, US$1499

For a 68000 machine, the classic runs pretty awesome!

other then the fact that it has no PDS slot. ITs a 68000 machine that is optimized to the hilt.

- its pretty quick(for a 680nothing), and has the nifty ability to boot from rom! -- and it was pretty cheap.

originally sold for(1991): US$1900, US$2400

I feel that the Classic II was not a good value(even then), for a 68030 machine.

Even when it was released, had to of been slightly dissapointing.

i mean it didn't even have a PDS slot like the LC-1 or LC-2!!! or color external video port…

Had a Mic in… a super value added feature?

other 68030 machines that had already been sold by apple to this point in time.

1988:

IIx 68030 16mhz

1989:

SE/30 68030 16mhz

IIcx 68030 16 mhz

IIci 68030 25mhz

1990:

IIsi 68030 20mhz

IIfx 68030 30mhz

1991:

Macintosh PowerBook 140 16 MHz 68030

Macintosh PowerBook 170 25 MHz 68030

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Other than the higher price, the Classic II was a pretty good, if not perfect way to end the Classics. The CC doesn't count, it wasn't part of the Classic series in any way other than name. It was more like an adopted child of the 128k, not a blood relative as I see it.

By 1991 it was a System 7 world, 4MB couldn't cut it any longer and the speed bump was necessary as well. The 9" periscope on your sweet Christmas gift popping safely up out of the padded MacSack your mom or dad had bought for their 512k or Plus back in the day was pretty sweet sitting on the cramped desk back in your dorm room. It did all you need ask of it until graduation day rolled around and that Classic II/7.6.1 went back in the carryall for its last trip home and onto the desk of your kid sister who'd just graduated from Junior High.

It was plenty good enough to get you through college and see the youngest of your sibs through high school graduation in 1999. That Classic II wound up being one of the best investments your folks had ever made.

Just saying.

 

[uniserver]

If i was in college at the time. I would have much rather bought a used Iici or SE/30, maybe even a used portable from a wealthy sales rep, that had just upgraded to a Powerbook 170.

just saying.

ps:

if you ran 7.6.1 on your Classic II or LC-II (especially with color turned on).

you were in for a real treet!

that is right not even real SPAM.

The only os that runs with decent responsiveness on the Classic II is 6.0.8L

7.1 is ok… 7.5 is total crud, 7.6.1 would have caused me insanity.

 

[Paralel]

I lurve my Classic II ;D (as Uni can atest to)

I honestly wouldn't trade it for any other model.

As far as OS, I find 7.1.2 runs very well on it. I have never noticed any delay in anything I have done, felt the RAM was too cramped, etc... I can get 7.1.2 loaded with all the extensions I need for ~1400k of memory. Plenty left over to do just about anything I would use it for.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Yeah, that's you talking now, uni. But all hindsight is 20/20 and that freakin' Luggable wouldn't have left enough space on your dorm room desk for a textbook, a legal pad and your notebook, much less a can of jolt cola or < ewww! &gt Budweiser.

How fast does a computer need to be run ClarisWorks or too slow to make chatting with your HS gang on dialup in the privacy of your bedroom an unendurable proposition while you're supposedly doing your homework?

It's still a great, if imperfect, Christmas present and handmedown. :approve:

Never look a gift horse in the mouth

 

[uniserver]

True true!!

hey paralel did you like those soundmaster tracks i installed?

hal9000 etc

 

[Paralel]

I look forward to taking at look at those. I plan to get it setup and running again this weekend now that my 540c is finally behaving itself. That thing will be the death of me yet.

 

[MinerAl]

I first encountered the Classic II in 94 when I was trying to get the other teachers at my new grown-up job to use email. Unfortunately, the CII's lack of a slot to put a network card in put it out of the race pretty quickly. I needed 10Base-T, and the best a CII could do was AppleTalk. (Even then, those SCSI-Ethernet dongles were hard to find cheap.)

I bought a few when they started coming into the recycling joints in the late 90s, because they made great small-footprint MS Word (5 or 98) stations in the junior high English room's Writing Lab. I had three or four of them AppleTalking to a LaserWriter IINT, and they were perfect speedy little word processors/HyperCard stack readers.

 

[Scott Baret]

I think the Classic II is underappreciated because it's always compared to the SE/30.

To be fair, the Classic II didn't technically replace the SE/30 in the lineup. Instead, the existing machines moved around a bit and the IIci pretty much took over the SE/30's old spot when the Quadras were released. Yes, it's a modular Mac, but in terms of relative place in the lineup as an entry level powerhouse, the IIci fit the bill compared to the other Macs.

The Classic II was more or less a higher-level entry computer for those who didn't require color. It's actually quite similar to the LC/LCII in many respects aside from its lack of a slot (which Apple wasn't going to do anything about to keep costs down).

Lots of people--myself included--would have loved to have seen a 25MHz SE/30, but Apple was trying to move toward modular machines for pros at the time, not focus on a computer with a 9" monochrome display (although it was excellent for quite a few folks--made a dandy little server in the day plus it could be outfitted with an external monitor). Also, take a look at how many 1991 manufacture SE/30s are out there. The computer was old tech and not really selling like hotcakes at the time of its discontinuation. It was only afterward that it gained its status as a cult classic. (I think most of us can attest to loving our SE/30s if we have them or wanting an SE/30 if we don't).