Appleshare Bug

[equant]

I can connect to my iBook's (9.1) drive from my SE (6.0.5) using Appleshare and Ethertalk. On the SE, I can copy files from the iBook, and run apps from the iBook with no issues.

The problem is when I try to copy files from the SE to the iBook. No matter what file, and what size, I get the same error...

There isn't enough room on the disk to duplicate or copy the selected items (additional 1,773,128,704 bytes needed).

Does anyone know what is causing this issue?

Is this an issue known to ethertalk? I'm running Phase 2, with an Asante ethernet card. Or... is the SE asking how much space is available on the iBook and it's not able to comprehend 2.34 GB of free space?

I've tried large files, and small files (13 bytes), I always get the same number of bytes in the error message. The SE HD is not full either; not that it *should* matter.

Thanks,

Nathan

 

[equill]

As a first suggestion for you to mull over (further), although the ability to address drives of more than 32MB arrived with System 4.1, coping with more than 2GB came only with System 7, and, specifically, 4GB to 2TB with System 7.5.2.

You could test (pain, I know) your hypothesis by making, say, a 100MB partition on your iBook HDD, and addressing that 'volume' only from the SE. The only potential alternative is to mount the SE's drive on the iBook's desktop, and copy from the SE as server to the iBook as client. How to visualize the SE as server on the iBook I leave to you to manage, but you have at least the ethernet connection available, whereas serial (LocalTalk) is not going to be a goer.

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[equant]

You could test (pain, I know) your hypothesis by making, say, a 100MB partition on your iBook HDD, and addressing that 'volume' only from the SE.

Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. Do you think 256MB is small enough? It would be easier to just share a USB thumbdrive than create a partition on my HD. I'll try when I get home.

Thanks,

Nathan

 

[Charlieman]

Don't confuse AppleShare and HFS. Volume size limits in one will not necessarily apply to the other. Pre System 7.5 Macs, for example, can access AppleShares much bigger than 4GB.

System 6 uses AppleShare Client 2.x, which may have AFP (AppleTalk Filing Protocol) volume size limits. I have done more testing on AppleShare, using loads of clients (Macs, Apple IIs, PCs), and different servers (AppleShare, NetWare, NT) than any one else. My testing was based on typical shares in the 1990s. Possibly naiive.

You may have hit an AFP volume or file handle limit. Let me know the nature of your working network environment. If the scenario is realistic, I'll test again.

Shared flash drives: Try it and report back.

 

[equill]

There isn't enough room on the disk to duplicate or copy the selected items (additional 1,773,128,704 bytes needed).

Which Mac is returning this fanciful arithmetic? The likelihood of your shifting a nominal 1.8GB file from the SE to the iBook is slight, even if you had one on the SE's hard drive. One of the Macs must still have had its shoes on. This kind of orders-of-magnitude miscalculation of hard drive space frequently comes from failing/failed drives (or their 'drivers'), and it may argue that one of them needs its driver re-installed.

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[equant]

You may have hit an AFP volume or file handle limit. Let me know the nature of your working network environment. If the scenario is realistic, I'll test again.

The environment is an SE and an iBook connected together via ethernet through a hub.

Shared flash drives: Try it and report back.

It's on the to-do list for tonight.

 

[equant]

Which Mac is returning this fanciful arithmetic

The SE, when I try to copy a file on the SE HD to the shared HD on the iBook.

 

[equill]

That supports Charlieman's suggestion. Let's see what his testing shows. The nearest approximation to your setup that I could cobble together would be a Classic (with EN/SC adapter) and my wife's iBook 600/14-in.

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[equant]

Well, my testing hasn't gone very far. I have two thumbdrives. One has a small DOS partition that the iBook can read, and I can turn on sharing without any errors, but it doesn't actually share. I tried to format/initialize the other thumbdrive with the iBook as an HFS drive something native, but had no luck. What would be a good tool for partitioning a USB drive under system9? Then I tried to share a floppy, and learned that AppleShare doesn't let you share floppies.

Nathan

 

[equill]

I have had only the briefest of flirtations with flash drives, and that more than a month ago. My impulse was to transfer files (on a SanDisk Cruzer Titanium 1GB) between my iMacs (500 CRTs) with Panther and Tiger to my client's machines (a motley lot under Windows XP). The U3 technology built into the drive was irrelevant for Macs. The transfers worked when XP could be induced to take its thumb from its mouth and simulate intelligence.

My brief research indicated that FAT16 formatting was to be preferred to FAT32 for small files, which most of mine were (MS Office 2004). No difficulties. However, I reverted to email for transfer, and haven't pushed the flash drive experiments any further. My reading also made it apparent that the variety of memory and controller chips in flash drives makes every brand or model of drive a Thing Unto Itself, and the results with any drive unpredictable until you have mastered it. At the moment, that's as encouraging as I can be.

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[katmac]

The old Mac software can't deal with a volume of 2G or larger.

You don't have to make a hard partition. I ran into this about a year ago, made a temporary disk image file with some utility, mounted it, shared it, moved the files no problem.