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Apple IIc won't boot?

Cosmo

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That code indicates the position on the motherboard of the faulty DRAM IC.
I figured out that (also find Apple II- documentation about errors) but for //c i am not 100% sure, wich way to count the RAM chips, wich one is it. I have a colleque who's interested in trying to fix it however.

Thanks for the tip on usenet.

 

LimeiBook86

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Wow, thanks for all the posts!!

I have tried to have a disk inside the IIc when I turn on the system. I even tried some external drives (which work fine on my IIGS), nothing seems to work. I'm sort of at a loss here, my hope is to one day pickup an Apple IIc Plus one day, but for now I want to try and get this one working.

Even though the above posts aren't directly related to my original issue, this makes me excited again to work on my IIc.

I'll ask my parents to bring out my Apple IIc, I'm really interesting in playing with it now that I have some more information. I hope I can get this baby working. :)

Thanks!

-Steve

 

david__schmidt

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I have tried to have a disk inside the IIc when I turn on the system. I even tried some external drives (which work fine on my IIGS), nothing seems to work. I'm sort of at a loss here, my hope is to one day pickup an Apple IIc Plus one day, but for now I want to try and get this one working.
I think you want to clean the drive head. Or had you done that wile it was apart? If not, you might want to give the head a gentle swipe with a Qtip and isopropyl alcohol. This video is for cleaning an older, boxier drive - but the concept is the same:

 

Cosmo

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Got an another //c yesterday wich outputs only "garbage" (i.e. random characters) on screen. Opened up the machine and cleaned up, pressed the chips. Will try today again with another monitor, cable and power supply. Or are we looking at ROM problem or so? The board itself is clean, no leaks, no corrosion etc.

Anybody have any experience with such "garbage" on screen problems with //c ?

 

david__schmidt

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It could be a lot of things. You might start by swapping chips with your good IIc and cross-check functionality on both as you go to isolate any bad parts.

 

Cosmo

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Swapping parts, i won't take that road, i don't want to risk breaking the old chips. If can find replacement CPU that's an option for sure.

Need to test with another internal power converter as well, it might be out of specs/half dead as now on power-up it will only display slight narrow "jumping" line in the middle. No noise from the disk drive etc. Not a good sign.

 

LimeiBook86

Well-known member
Well I took this out of storage again to play with it.

Still no luck. Cleaned the floppy drive head but no luck. Also doesn't explain why a known-good external drive won't work.

However... I was reading online someone had a similar issue. The problem was the IWM chip (Integrated Wozniak Machine) which apparently controls the floppy disk drive. That could be why the system

always thinks there is no disk drive is installed. I'll keep my eye out at yard sales for a spare IIc or IIc plus. I'd love to have a working one, I have a stack of floppies just waiting to play with... I do have a working IIGS.

However in the apartment it's nicer to have a compact machine like the IIc or IIc plus. :)

 

Philsan

Member
I think my Apple IIc has faulty RAM chips and I would like to exchange them.

Which RAM chips should I use?

In particular, which is the right speed?

I checked my Apple IIc RAM chips and in the middle there is Apple logo followed by "mT 4264".

On the top of the chips is written, with a very little font, "8448".

There are no values such -20, -15, -1,2 -10, -8 to know their speed.

 
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