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ANS AIX setup

ChristTrekker

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Sorry not 68k but...

Anyone know how to get AIX to install across my 3 drives with them mounted the way I want? I never see an option to make driveA /, driveB /usr, etc.

(Dang, AIX is strange compared to others Unices...) Also, how do I get it to recognize my 100bT card? And how do I change the screen resolution?

 

porter

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I assume you are using the special edition AIX 4.1.whatever for ANS?

With all AIX admin tasks I first try and solve the problem with "smit", this is pretty good at finding out what you can and can't do with a system.

I believe that AIX 4 supports the modern AIX mechanism of adding all drives to a logical volume group, then making the file systems on top of that. Effectively all the drives get added together to make one big drive. Then make the file systems and swap as subdivisions of that, with the advantage that you can dynamically change their sizes.

Eg, man extendvg and chfs as starting points.

 

ChristTrekker

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Any luck?
I spent some time those initial few days I had it, and have not had time since. I swear, you put off home projects for just a few days, and you're catching up for weeks! Right now the ANS is serving as a platform to keep my Ultra 5 off the floor.

 

caryn

Member
There are two issues you've raised, the disk config, and the 100BT card.

'porter' has dealt with the first pretty well, but I'll add this: the initial install of AIX 4.1.4 for ANS will walk you through a full install, including the trip into the Disk Management system. Unlike clunky dinosaurs like SunOS/Solaris, AIX has a highly interactive, user-intuitive interface for system management---the 'smit' porter noted. SMIT may be run from CDE (the fancy desktop) or from a TTY as 'smitty'.

AIX employs journaled filesystems (JFS), logical volumes, and Volume Groups---these concepts are essential to baseline AIX configuration, but you may certainly let the system do a simple install (to a single physical disk belonging to the root volume group and comprising several logical volumes, including the log, scratch, and the usual '/', '/tmp', '/var', '/home', and '/usr' filesystems.

In AIX, one or more physical hard disks may be piled together as a single Volume Group; this is NOT a RAID, and it is NOT a mirrored VG; the former requires the Apple RAID Card, the latter may be selected if you wish (my personal opinion is that mirroring the rootvg is a waste of time, processor slices, and disk space, because I've nevere seen a mirrored rootvg recovered from a mirror---it is very effective for non rootvgs, but a system image is much better security for the rootvg).

So...if you want to treat all three of your SCSI disks as a single volume group, you should make them all members of the initial VG, 'rootvg'. Then, configure your Logical Volumes as and how you like (you could also decide how AIX places these filesystems across the drives, still in SMIT). As a caveat, if you intend to use binaries for certain "freeware", you'll want '/' to be at least 250MB---I generally go with 500MB, but there is no OS requirement beyond the minimum that SMIT allocates automagically.

I usually map all this out on paper first, especially for the rootvg, and work out the sizes in LPPs (which you also manipulate in SMIT).

Mind you, AIX will let you add disks to the rootvg and increase the allocations to various logical volumes, after an initial 'default' install. So you don't necessarily have to re-install to re-organize your logical volumes.

Now....about that 100BT card. IF your card is the Apple 100Base-TX PCI card, then updating your ANS AIX to 4.1.5 via the Update CD will accomplish this task for you. If it is NOT the Apple card, you are probably doomed to 10base-T; Apple made serious modifications to AIX for the ANS, so that IBM AIX does not generally work with the ANS---particularly, the drivers and the system installer refuse to update from IBM AIX media because of the Apple customization.

Dealing with the ODM (Object Database Manager) is not for the faint of heart. If you really feel you cannot live without your 100Base-TX card, you'll need to create an ODM record for it, add it to the customized ODM on the machine ("customized" because it is on a running machine), and then find a way to make the Apple AIX installer accept the foreign driver---and simply using 'force' in the SMIT install will probably not get it done (I could not force the 3Com 10/100 card for IBM AIX driver to install because the Apple AIX system installer refuses to accept the maintenance level update needed to run the 3Com installer).

Good luck. The ANS is a powerful Unix box, even at 4.1.5 and with 10base-T (well, the AAUI connector will take 10Base-T or 10Base-2). It is great for fileservice, and it WILL run the IBM AppleShare fileserver (if you can find it). I haven't had much luck with Apple's version of AIX AppleShare, though. But NFS works fine. Oh...don't get caught by the ambiguity in the Apple Manuals---you must configure Termination for each drive manually---the pain-in-the-butt AMI will NOT do it.

 

Ebbi

Member
If AIX is already up and running, you can simply add the additional disks to the rootvg with smit.

 

ChristTrekker

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If AIX is already up and running, you can simply add the additional disks to the rootvg with smit.
I think that's part of my problem, that I'm completely new to AIX administration. Speaking of "rootvg" doesn't help me much. I understand that smit is the AIX uber-tool, but that's about all.

 

Leografix

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I'm not of much help either, but I will try. "rootvg" stands for "Root Volume Group" - can consist of one ore more physical harddrives containing the base operating system and a configured root user account.

In using smit as software solution AIX is able to bind several hard disks together into a storage volume in sense of "logical volume" - but not into a RAID.

Assigning harddisks to AIX lets You choose to add more hard disks to the already existing "rootvg" volume group or setting up ew volume groups in ddition to the "rootvg" volume group.

Haven't tried it myself until now because my ANS lacks the possibility to add more drives...

J

 

Ebbi

Member
Speaking of "rootvg" doesn't help me much.
Maybe http://www.rootvg.net could be a good starting point. ;)

I know what you mean, but I'm not aware of an AIX beginner's guide. And an ANS is not a perfect item to start with AIX though.

My ANS is still originally sealed, so I cannot help for now.

But installing AIX is usually not difficult, compared to its administration. ;)

 

caryn

Member
OK...I'm no longer exactly sure what it is you want to do, besides install AIX. The phrase "across three disks...the way I want..." may be deceptive.

The way the install should work is that you stick the AIX for ANS Install CD in the CD-ROM drive, press the power key, and after what seems like a very long time, the SMIT Installation Screen appears on the Multi-Sync monitor you have connected to the ANS (or the SMITTY screen appears on the TTY---if you have both, AIX will print a message on both screens asking you to press a particular key to select that screen---if you wait, it will pick the Monitor for you).

Thereafter, you can simply follow the installation screens to get your basic AIX for ANS install.

If you want to configure your hard disks and do a more sophisticated install, I feel it would be helpful to try and understand AIX a bit more...

It may take me a while to finish, but I started writing a brief primer on AIX and Disks that I **hope** will help clear up how AIX and disks work (AIX is quite powerful in this regard---one can increase the size of a volume, or even add a new disk, without taking the system down).

Give me a bit. Also, do you have a specific configuration that you want? Could you write it out for me? Thanks.

Cheers,

caryn

 

ChristTrekker

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That is part of the problem, not knowing exactly what I want to do. But with Linux or some other Unix, disk partitioning and mount setup is part of the install process. I may create them poorly and set them up wrong, but at least I know how my disks are configured. And I learn something from the process. With AIX, it seems I'm just supposed to trust it to do something "smart", whatever that may be. Considering that the machine is 10 years old, I'm not sure I want to trust the drives to span data across them in a "volume group". I'd like to be able to specify one disk to contain the full base OS install. That seems sensible to me. If it fails, I just put in a new one and install the OS to it, and my data on other drives is fine. If one of the other drives fails, I still have a booting system, I just lose some data.

My only real "goal" for having this machine is to understand AIX more. But it seems strange that I have to understand AIX more before I can even get it installed! It's not like I'm a complete computer noob...I've been using Unix at some level for 15 years now. I've installed Linux, NetBSD, Solaris, IRIX, A/UX. The barrier for entry to AIX seems higher than for other Unixes, so far.

My ANS also has a RAID card. I'm not sure how that fits into this mix, and probably won't until I get to play with the base system a bit first. Then I'll probably rebuild it differently, maybe with some specific intent in mind.

 

Leografix

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The major difference between AIX and other UNIXes is the handling of physical disk space in accordance to the logical handling. While other UNIXes "just" need large enough partitions for swap space, user slice, root slice and else AIX has this unique ability to add storage space later on without installing the BOS again.

A little example: if You are looking onto A/UX You will have to decide how large each partition has to be before installing the OS itself. If You want to use A/UX as a webserver / file server system than You will have to add other disks with their own partitions for storage space or You will have to sacrifice some allready partioned space of Your harddisk which contains the OS for storage space - which is alltogether very similar to other UNIXes like NeXTstep, OpenStep, NetBSD and else.

AIX in return is able to add storage space without (!) modifying the partion structure itself. I haven´t tried it myself until now because my ANS still lacks additional tray adapters and I didn´t place a second drive in the rear of the machine but reading several articles and a book about this topic teached me this: besides the fact that the ANS is a "hot swappable server" (which means "exchanging physically drives while working") AIX has the ability to add storage space just by adding a physically existing drive to the logical handling of "rootvg". "rootvg" stand for "root volume group" which itself stands for " a bunch of harddrives logically handled by AIX as a file system which spreads over these physically connected drives and containing the root file system". So what does this mean? An example: think of having Your ANS as a file server just with one drive and spending about 4 GB of this drive as the file storage. Adding a second drive now and adding it to the "rootvg" would span this capacity up to the maximum of storage space which this new drive can hold - without re-installing the BOS or modifying the file system by altering the partitions.

Have a look into "Info Explorer" of AIX or use the "macintosh Utilities for the Apple Network Server" on a regular old-school Mac. the principle is explained quite well. Only question will be: how do You want to use Your ANS?

J[/i]

 

Ebbi

Member
The capability of adding storage to the existing and running OS is not an exclusive feature of AIX, but of an LVM. Other UNIXes have that as well, but AIX was the first UNIX with heavy usage of it and they have a long experience in it.

There are also different LVM concepts with all the commercial vendors, but this would go too far now.

Leografix, please remind me that I'll donate a genuine IBM AIX machine to you, next time we'll meet. ;)

 

Leografix

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Leografix, please remind me that I'll donate a genuine IBM AIX machine to you, next time we'll meet. ;)
Well, Ebbi my friend, will surely be of some fun I suppose but I´m trying to get along with the machines I already got ;-) For some odd reason IBM never intersted me that much until now and to be honest I never understood UNIX the way it should supposed to be ;-)

J

 

ChristTrekker

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Leografix, I guess I don't understand how this is much different than RAID with some additional software to make growth transparent. Depending on the RAID model used, loss of a disk may or may not hose my system. I feel that if I had a little more control over how it is set up, I could minimize my risk.

 

caryn

Member
OK, now you've added **another** level of complication, with the RAID card. Is your RAID card connected (there are two SCSI ribbon cables and a cable known as the AMI cable that plug into the motherboard---without these cables plugged in, the card is useful only for connecting an external RAID).

I do feel you are wrong about the Unix baseline for AIX. One **can** perform a Base Operating System with almost **no** Admin experience, even on an Apple ANS. It appeared to me, based on your previous posts, that you wanted to understand what was going on, rather than simply run the BOS installer.

If all you want is to run a simple BOS install, AIX is easier than A/UX (I have three IIfx boxes running 3.1.1 right now), any of the free Un*x O/Ss, and certainly Solaris or HP-UX, much less SGI or Unixware.

Pu the CD in the CD-ROM drive. Turn on the machine. Follow the step-by-step instructions as they appear. You are done. You will need configuration information, but if 15 years of Unix have not prepared you to enter an IP address or set up NFS, you are playing in the wrong sandbox.

If you would like to understand a bit more, here is a very rough accounting of one way you might approach employing three disks on AIX.

AIX employs a very powerful software abstraction layer between the user-level OS and the hardware. The heart of this abstraction layer is the Object Database. The Object Database is an RDBMS, and the manager for it is, as you might expect, the Object Database Manager, or ODM---when an AIX person uses "ODM", they are speaking very generally about both the Data Base itself, and the Manager for it; both are extensively employed. IBM used to give advanced courses just to learn the ODB and ODM---very useful if you want to add devices not recognized, or change a coded parameter that is not easily accessible (most changeable parameters are available to you when you "configure" a device using SMIT).

The ODM enables AIX to present physical hardware as data objects. Thus, if you run the SMIT command to show all devices, you will find a device for each DIMM (or SIMM for those of us with older machines), for the system planar, for the CPU, for your physical disks, your adapters (cards), and so on.

AIX creates a Physical Volume (a PV) for each hard disk drive in the system. The PV is not unique to a particular hard disk drive, but it does identify an individual drive at a specific physical address, comprising the Bus ID, and the SCSI ID, for each drive. There is a a key difference between a Physical Volume in the ODM and a specific, individual, hard disk drive installed in one of the several places a disk drive may be installed.

First, let's look at how AIX "sees" your three disks, in each of the three **most** likely configurations...

Thus, In your case, with three hard disk drives installed in drive trays 3,4,5, on a new and complete BOS install, AIX will create three Physical Volumes (PVs) for your disks, as follows: the first drive, in Tray 3, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID2 (PV 0,2); the second drive, in Tray 4, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID3 (PV 0,3), and the third drive, in Tray 5, on Bus 1, with SCSI ID4 (PV 1,4).

The above assumes that you have installed the three drives in order in the hot-swappable drive trays. As the trays **with** drive connect hardware are hard to come by, this may not be the case. This also assumes you connected the AMI leads in the tray, or that you set the IDs by hand---don't forget to terminate both buses manually, the ANS base documents, such as they are, often mislead the unwary into thinking the AMI software will configure SCSI IDs AND termination, but it only handles IDs. See Page 23 of the Setting Up... Apple Manual for the ANS.

If you have set up the three drives using the one drive that ships with the CD and the DAT, and then used the two rear drive bays (less hard to come by, but still no picnic), then the last two drives will have different PV IDs, as they have different SCSI IDs (this is more important to AIX than you might think).

The "top" rear drive is Bus 1, ID1, while the bottom drive is Bus 1 ID0; the ID for the "top" drive must be set by hand (well, "unset", anyway), and the bottom drive must be terminated. The PV IDs are now: Tray 3, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID2 (SAME, PV 0,2); the second drive, on "bottom", on Bus 1, with SCSI ID1 (PV 1,1), and the third drive, on "top", on Bus 1, with SCSI ID1 (PV 1,1).

If you pull the CD and the DAT and load all three drives in the first three drive trays, you get: the first drive, in Tray 1, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID0 (PV 0,0); the second drive, in Tray 2, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID1 (PV 0,1), and the third drive, in Tray 3, on Bus 0, with SCSI ID2 (PV 0,2).

NOW....no matter which of these hardware configurations you are using---or any others, for that matter---AIX creates three Physical Volumes (in order of our examples):

hdisk0---> 0,2 OR 0,2 OR 0,0

hdisk1---> 0,3 OR 1,0 OR 0,1

hdisk2---> 1,4 OR 1,1 OR 0,2

Why all this craziness, you may be wondering, when AIX is going to use the same three Physical Volume names no matter what? Well....the simplest answer is, what happens if you move a drive to a new ID---say you used the top three drive slots, and then you stumble on someone who sells you their old ANS with the CD and DAT, and you want to use those without having to stand on your head. You can move all your drives around---the HDDs would now go into the 3,4,5 slots, the CD in the 1 slot, and the DAT in 2---without having to reinstall your OS (I believe the term is "re-image" now).

Until you decide to do that, however, let me add a warning: AIX does not differentiate between like drives unless you enter an optional parameter. What this means, is that if you have three identical drives---say 3 IBM 4.51GB SCSI-2 F/W drives---AIX does not identify any single drive uniquely; you can swap around the three identical drives to different Bus or SCSI ID (the more common usage is Channel and ID) and AIX will create a new PV for that ID; thus you could wind up at hdisk9 if you cycled through all of the configs above (or at least hdisk7).

SO...I always select the optional parameter to assign each PV a unique identifer, and I write it down in my config log. This comes in handy if you have a snafu and forget which drive you installed what on five years later.

In any event...we now have three PVs, hdisk0, hdisk1, and hdisk2, ready to go. By default, AIX will install the BOS on hdisk0 ONLY. If you want to put all three drives together, you will need to select "Change Install Options" and then select "Drives" and then select the other two PVs (they will have a somewhat longer device ID, but the important parts are the last two pairs, which will be the Bus and ID for your drives---you will recognize them anyway, but it's useful to know if you wind up with a fifteen drive system, or ever want to configure a 31-drive SSA Array).

I do not know that this is really what you want to do---it is useful for many OSs not as sophisticated as AIX, but not so much so for AIX. You will be able to build filesystems on the other two drives---say for "usr/local" and for "usr/source" or whatever---after BOS install; you can also "mirror" one with another later if you want; I do not ever bother to "mirror" the disk(s) my BOS is on, as I have never seen it Save The Day---better bet is to make sysbacks (a bootable tape that you can easily restore from).

This is quite apart from a RAID---I do use a three-drive RAID5 for my BOS PV on my ANS 700/200, and it **has** Saved The Day (though only just).

Anyway, if you insist that you need all three drives to hold about 1G worth of stuff with plenty of room to grow...you'll want to add the other two drives (if this gives you problems, post, and I'll go step through it on one of my AIX boxes). This creates the assignment of PVs to Volume Groups.

A Volume Group is **something** like what a hard drive is on A/UX. On A/UX, a hard drive holds a set of disk partitions that are presented as "slices" under SVR2. In AIX, the PVs you group together are treated as a single "bucket" of space---AIX uses Logical Partitions and Physical Partitions---these are the same "size" for the ANS and any other modern machine (32-bit capable). From the space available in a Volume Group, AIX will create the equivalent of "partitions" on A/UX---these are called Logical Volumes. Do not carry this analogy very far at all; Logical Volumes are nothing like old-style "hard" or "soft" partitions, other than that they perform the same basic translation between the BOS and the physical media---but they do it far differently, with much greater freedom, flexibility, and a lot more power.

Logical Volumes are probably what you've actually been trying to figure out, but I wanted to try and give you some idea of how AIX goes about its work.

A Logical Volume is a "software hard disk", a means for AIX to view a selection of drive sectors (for A/UX, these must be on a particular disk, but on AIX a Logical Volume may span all, or just **parts** of, multiple disks). The ODM handles the presentation of "partitions"---collections of drive sectors on a collections disk drives, allocated as both Physical Partitions and Logical Partitions in case you are doing very sophisticated disk allocations for Data Bases or high-performance imagine servers---to the BOS as a Logical Volume.

AIX is installed on a default Volume Group called "rootvg"---the BOS installer creates the VG from the disks you select (or the default, lowest numbered PV) during installation set-up. The BOS installer creates a number of Logical Volumes that are standard to AIX, which are given rather unimaginative Logical Volume names, but which are what one expects to find on an AIX machine, so one gets used to them.

Remember that a Logical Volume IS NOT a filesystem, nor is it a mount point, though AIX employs both of those abstractions to present the contents of a Logical Volume to the higher-level OS and the user.

AIX creates as the default rootvg the following Logical Volumes (with their mount points following):

hd1----> "home" mount_point => /home

hd2----> "usr" mount_point => /usr

hd3----> "tmp" mount_point => /tmp

hd4----> "/" mount_point => /

hd5----> "boot" mount_point => NONE (not mountable)

hd6----> "paging" mount_point => NONE (not mountable)

--- (no hd7, in case you're wondering)

hd8----> "jfslog" mount_point => NONE (not mountable)

hd9var----> "var" mount_point => /var

AIX creates these LVs with just enough space to install the BOS and optional AIX software you selected during the install process. You will need to go into the System Management Interface Tool (SMIT) and allocate space as needed, or set the LVs up once as you think best (this is what I do, and why I would NOT allocate all three disks to the rootvg, so that I can create my fileserver and source code filesystems on their own LVs in their own VGs---this simplifies management, makes backing up easier, makes recovery much easier, and also minimizes fallout if things go south---again, a RAID is a different fish).

I have to go, but I can walk you through some of this in more detail, or help you allocate space once you've installed AIX and brought your AIX box on line.

A final caveat---the ANS is NOT a RS/6000; like nearly every brilliant idea Apple has ever had, it was set up to be an Apple-only project, and then abandoned after Apple blew its own foot off (in this case, by not aggressively marketing it, by not pushing an Apple-branded AppleShare server for AIX {one exists, btw}, or otherwise supporting the ANS).

Hope this Tome helped!

caryn

 

Leografix

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A final caveat---the ANS is NOT a RS/6000...
I would like to annotate something here. I've been dismantling my ANS several times by now hoping to get some more informtion about hardware capabilities and compatibilities. I've also been contacting several ANS and RS/6000 owners about some topics. To me it seems quite clear that an ANS is much more close and comparable to a RS/6000 system than to a many times mentioned Power Mac 9500. Although several parts are declared as made by "Apple Computer" some details are very different from regular Apple machines. Some examples: the CPU board connector type is very close to other RS/6000 systems - it was never used in Macs as far as I can see. The key-lock-switch principle is exactly the same like with RS/6000 systems. Even the fact that the PCI bus is divided into two channels (3 slots per bus) is more like a RS system, Macs (9500 and 9600) and Clones (Umax S900) used PCI bridging.

I tried to install NIcards in order to get 100 MBps - absolutly NO Apple card was able to do so, some weren't even defined to the BOS. On the other hand many older "PC" cards from DEC, IBM or SEC - normally not working in a regular Mac - just did their job (up to 10MBps). There is something strange within the NIcard topic. Any non-Apple card is identified as an Apple card so it appears to me that Apple has implied some "universal NIcard driver" for every compatible model. I also used an IBM card which provides just 10 MBps which was identified as Apple card to the ODM. A guy running AIX 4.3 on his RS/6000 is using exactly (!) the same card with the same driver - and here it is identified as an IBM card....

In many aspects the ANS reminds me of regular 9500 or 9600 Macs but it simply looks closer to a RS system to me.

J

 

caryn

Member
Leo...

I certainly not disagree with your view vis-a-vis an ANS and a Macintosh of any flavour; the ANS is closer to a RS6K than to a Macintosh.

However...

That does NOT make the ANS "close" to an RS6K. As you and I discussed earlier, the ANS has specific Apple hardware built into its mother board, and the ROM identifies the machine to AIX as being vendor-unique.

The ANS uses the Apple MACE chipset for ethernet, which is at the heart of all those ethernet troubles. The ANS also uses the Apple Desktop Bus, which is another piece of Apple-Only software. Lastly, the ANS will not take any of the high-end RS6K Graphics adapters.

On the other hand, the RAM and Cache from a 9600 or 8600 PMac works beautifully. One ethernet kludge I haven't yet tried is to get one of the early Asante or Farallon 10/100 PCI cards and see if that will map close enough to the Apple 100Base-TX PCI card to force 100 Mbs operation (the Apple driver cannot auto-sense, btw, which is why speeds run at the "safe" fallback---it was built to use Apple hardware, and at the time, Apple only had the 100Base-TX Card).

It is this problem---the Apple-unique hardware built-in to the ANS, that prevents the ANS from employing PCI Cards manufactured for the RS6K. My 3Com 10/100 PCI card runs wonderfully in my F40---and at 100 Mbps full duplex---but in my ANS, it is an Apple PCI Ethernet card capable of 10Mbs. None of the tricks I know---and I know a fair number, though by no means an exhaustive number---can force AIX to override the vendor unique hardware and install an AIX driver for a Card that AIX 4.1.5 fully supports.

Leo, I believe you had quite an adventure working your ANS up to 4.1.5 and getting as close as you could on patch level, didn't you? That process would be interesting.

The area where the ANS is most compatible with the RS/6000 is in AIX, of course. But even here, things become difficult pretty quickly. Getting an IBM compiler to work reliably can be challenging, but installing FrameMaker was a piece of cake. Informix made an ANS version, but try as I might, no one at Informix could find one to sell to me. But DB2 v5 worked very well, ***for what I needed***. I haven't tried installing SystemView, but I have installed quite a bit of Bull-compiled freeware, and much of it works fine---as long as the hardware is a go.

I have also run 768MB of RAM in my ANS, though it was not ECC RAM. I can use my DDS-3 DAT, too, but I have to set the blocking and options by hand, because it shows up as a generic SCSI DAT.

Leo probably has spent more time forcing AIX filesets onto his machine; I am lucky enough to have all the Apple Upgrades (though I paid full $$ for them). I did have a DAT with the old fixdist, but that went missing somewhere, much to my chagrin.

So...closer, yes. The same...no, compatible, absolutely. As I mentioned, I am able to run the IBM AppleTalk stack on my ANS, and the IBM AppleShare server (along with the SMB and NetWare servers, which I leave off). I can print to the ANS from my MacOS Macs and it will spool off onto the ANS, and it even plays well with A/UX 3.1.1 and FreeBSD.

Which reminds me, Leo....I have a full list of filesets for the "official" Apple AIX 4.1.4-4.1.5 Update, and I **think** I know which are controlled for export (mostly stuff like compilers and all encryption stuff). Do you want me to post it for you? If you do, could you let me know if you were able to get any further Maintenance Packages to take? Thanks.

PS: I love my ANS, with all its foibles and frustrations (like the RAID card with the 5-year CMOS battery that, once it dies, cannot remember the RAID config if the ANS is shutdown).

 
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