A Nice Little Software Haul

[kvanderlaag]

Nice score!

If you need to find a home for a Windows 3.1 set, I'm sure someone here would be happy to assist.

 

[Concorde1993]

Nice score!

If you need to find a home for a Windows 3.1 set, I'm sure someone here would be happy to assist.

Thanks, but I think I am going to keep these for a while. It's not everyday you find Win 3.1 in its original box shrink-wrapped.

If you desperately need copies of 3.1 with its original box, I think there are still a couple of mutilated (part flattened/torn) boxes with floppies in them in that closet. I didn't take them because of their condition, and the fact I already have 6 copies of 3.1 disks (with some still in their original shrink-wrap).

 

[Bunsen]

Just out of curiosity, is that "Windows 3.1 Bible" published by Peachpit Press, the publishers of the "Mac Bible" series? If so, it's probably a very useful and informative book.

 

[Unknown_K]

Windows for Workgroups (Win 3.11) is more useful today if you are going to network machines then the older Win 3.1.

Win 3.1 disks can be founf boxed on ebay all the time for a reasonable amount of money, cheaper then getting something shipped from Canada to the US anyway.

 

[Concorde1993]

Just out of curiosity, is that "Windows 3.1 Bible" published by Peachpit Press, the publishers of the "Mac Bible" series? If so, it's probably a very useful and informative book.

Great to hear from you, Sir Bunsen Honeydew. To answer your question, yes this bible was published by Peachpit Press, and yes it is very detailed, and useful (considering it's for a Windows operating system). Fred Davis is a great author. His approach is almost similar to that of Arthur Naiman & co. in the Macintosh Bible series, which is also very useful, and entertaining to read.

Btw, how many editions of the Macintosh Bible are there? I have edition 3 & 4 at the moment, which are both in fairly good condition (although my copy of the 4 edition does have some significant wear on the front/back cover).

Also, what ever happened to Beaker, Bunsen?

Win 3.1 disks can be founf boxed on ebay all the time for a reasonable amount of money, cheaper then getting something shipped from Canada to the US anyway.

I am sure they are, but attending school at an older institution does have its benefits, which by far outweighs the necessity for eBay.

 

[Unknown_K]

There is a big difference between getting your hands on any lot of old software and needing something in particular. For example thrifts are good for finding old software for little money (boxed Win98 upgrade for $.98 a few weeks back), but not so good for something specific you need and that is where ebay comes in.

 

[Concorde1993]

There is a big difference between getting your hands on any lot of old software and needing something in particular.

As a matter of fact, the reason why I even bothered to check out that closet was to find software disks for my Amiga 2000HD, and my IBM Thinkpad 365x (the only thing I found for my systems was the second edition owner's manual for my 365x). In all honesty, I was not expecting to find the amount of software I did in this haul. Besides, the school admin is starting to "clean up house," if you know what I mean, so it was beneficial to get this software now then waiting to find a use for everything before its thrown out, or returned to the school board.

And who knows. I may be able to get my hands on an old IBM PC, which requires these DOS disks to boot. So I don't see how this haul was a waste. And btw, why the hell do I need to pay some lunatic on eBay 10x the amount that this software is actually worth (not including shipping) if it was under my nose all this time? Think before you type, my friend.

 

[jsarchibald]

Not all of us have convenient access to a treasure trove of classic hardware and software. Schools over here don't keep any old stuff, it goes while it is still worth something. eBay is one of the only places for the rest of us to get these sorts of items. Unless you wanna share the love by procuring for others on this site?

 

[Unknown_K]

Who the hell said the haul was a waste? All I am saying is that it is cool to find a stash of free old software (even duplicates you can trade for other items), but it doesn't much help if you need something in particular. There are many places besides ebay to get software, but ebay can be the only place you can find some things.

I have found software all over the place online and around my house, have been hunting for most of this decade and have a heck of a collection to show for the effort.

 

[Concorde1993]

I have found software all over the place online and around my house, have been hunting for most of this decade and have a heck of a collection to show for the effort.

I'm sure you do. Feel free to post some pics of your collection. Perhaps we share some common ground in that manner.

but it doesn't much help if you need something in particular.

Well, beggars can't be choosers. I took what was available. The things that are compatible with my DOS systems I intend to utilize when I have the time to do so properly, and the things that are in the shrink-wrap, or are for systems that are not included in my collection at this moment I intend to keep, and treasure till death do us part (or if someone offers me a million dollars for it, whichever comes first). Just because it can't be utilized at this exact moment doesn't mean that I should just leave it there just to kick myself in the pants 5, or 10 years down the road when their requirement becomes necessary for a vintage project.

 

[~Coxy]

Looks like the Macintosh Bible is effectively over since 10.3 days.

It's a bit sad because I definitely feel that modern Apple fans could stand to learn a little about older times. I have a 3rd and a 7th myself, they're good reading.

1st Edition -

2nd Edition -

3rd Edition - 1991 (the delayed System 7.0 about to hit)

4th Edition -

5th Edition -

6th Edition -

7th Edition - 1998 (OS 8)

8th Edition - 2001 (9.2.1 and 10.1)

9th Edition - 2004 (10.3)

 

[Concorde1993]

Looks like the Macintosh Bible is effectively over since 10.3 days.

Wow! It had a pretty good run after all! :beige:

I personally thought that Naiman & co. stopped prior to the release of OS 8, as it probably was becoming extremely difficult to record the changes in the Apple product line, and the new features in the OS. It was easier in the earlier editions, such as 3 & 4 (the ones I own) as 4 is merely a carryover from 3, despite the changes mentioned in the product line (i.e., discontinuation of the Plus, introduction of the Performa/PowerBook 145, etc.), and the transition to System 7 (the 3rd edition still focused on System 6).

I would love to get my hands on the most "recent" bibles, just to see how the quality of the material is in comparison to the "Old World ROM" era bibles.

I still ponder as to why they stopped so late in the game. Was the competition really that fierce?

 

[Scott Baret]

1st Edition - 1987 copyright, but covers through the end of 1986 (up through the Plus era, no SE or later)

2nd Edition - 1989 copyright, but includes only through SE and II (no IIx or IIcx)

3rd Edition - 1991 (the delayed System 7.0 about to hit), covers through mid-1990 (no Classic or LC yet)

4th Edition - 1992 (has System 7, Quadras, and LC II)

5th Edition - 1994 (System 7.5 is covered)

6th Edition - 1996? (Don't have this one, but I think it covered Power Macs)

7th Edition - 1998 (OS 8 )

8th Edition - 2001 (9.2.1 and 10.1)

9th Edition - 2004 (10.3)

Arthur Naiman worked on the first four. Sharon Zardetto Aker was a major contributor/editor to many of these editions as well. Dale Coleman was involved with the earlier editions. Clifford Colby and Marty Cortinas were around for the later editions, and I believe Darcy DiNucci was the principal editor of the fifth edition.

 

[Concorde1993]

Interesting. Thanks for the info, Scott, although it still does not explain why they stopped publishing newer editions. Is there any mention in the 10.3 edition that they would seize work on the bibles?

Btw, those IBM Starter Disk packages I have...are they of any significant value (besides the fact that they are vintage & in mint condition)?

 

[Concorde1993]

I received more DOS-related software & peripherals from my school today. I managed to find another copy of DOS 6.1 (in its original box) with the manuals/disks intact (however these disks are NOT in their shrink-wrap, which allows me to test them out on an old DOS PC), amongst other interesting things:

 

[Concorde1993]

5 pictures per thread is the limit for some reason, so here's the next batch for your viewing pleasure:

 

[Concorde1993]

The finale (for now, anyway):







The colour-coded BNC cables are for a 1990 Panasonic PT-200 CRT projector (which is funny, because my initials, excluding my middle names, is "PT"), which I hope to haul on home after receiving proper clearance from the board's ICT department to do so. The projector itself is in working condition (despite the fact that it has been in cold storage for sometime, but it does need a bit of TLC, with all of the scuff marks & dust) & is a beast (I believe it weighs just over 300 pounds). Naturally, it comes with its own case with wheels to transport.

 

[Unknown_K]

Those ECHO speech synth cards looks interesting.

 

[Concorde1993]

Those ECHO speech synth cards looks interesting.

I'm hoping to try them out on my Amiga 2000 as soon as I can find the Workbench boot disks for it. I have never seen these types of cards before, or the "ECHO" speech box for that matter. I wonder why they were purchased.