Just bought some ANS locks and keys:

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dschnur

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I snagged all of them. I'll have extras, but my goal is to rebuild a Quadra 950 lock which is missing they key since these use the same keyways.

www.ebay.com

Vintage Apple Key Switch NOS 3-Pos Panel Mount Lock – Qty 1 | eBay

Optional case latch tab on the cam. Panel mount with nut and lock washer. Three-position switch.
www.ebay.com

I'll have extras and you know how much I paid, so if anyone wants one, send me a message. I should have them in a week or so.. give or take.
 
How are you planning to rebuild the 950 lock? I have a 950 but with the wrong key, so I’d love to know how you accomplish this and see if I can replicate it!
 
Durosity said:
How are you planning to rebuild the 950 lock? I have a 950 but with the wrong key, so I’d love to know how you accomplish this and see if I can replicate it!
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So, the long and short is this. The lock is assembled at the factory and cannot be re-keyed without destroying it.

Post a picture of the key you have. I *might* be able to get another 900 series lock without a key and I know what the one it uses looks like. Also, post the key number. It's on a tag connected to the wire on the lock.
 
I find that re-keying the quadra locks is pretty trivial- at the end of the day, we're not super-worried about security, pull the core and then just find a single pin or two from your starting lock that matches the donor key, and reassemble- you can leave out the other pins.
 
defor said:
I find that re-keying the quadra locks is pretty trivial- at the end of the day, we're not super-worried about security, pull the core and then just find a single pin or two from your starting lock that matches the donor key, and reassemble- you can leave out the other pins.
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How do you get them apart? The AWS locks are all metal and there's no obvious way. On the manufacturer web site, they say they can't be rekeyed.
 
Ok, so it's on my twitter, but since I don't really want to promote that anymore after having moved over to bluesky, here's a screenshot of it:
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Also, it's been a while so I forgot, it's not pins, but rather "gates" but easy enough to get the idea- just watch out for the tiny springs that sit along the gates!
 
Very cool. I saw that snap in the back on mine, but didn't try to pry it open. The locks use a standard keyway, so you could probably buy an off the shelf one and 3d print the key back. I might just try that. I have an extra quadra lock with no key.
 
I believe I identified this as an IN8 keyway if you want to try buying a blank or printing one of those.

The A126 key for it is some kind of generic cut used in millions of products, so it might be worth it to just re-key to that so you’ll never lose another. 10 keys for $10 on Amazon…
 
eharmon said:
I believe I identified this as an IN8 keyway if you want to try buying a blank or printing one of those.

The A126 key for it is some kind of generic cut used in millions of products, so it might be worth it to just re-key to that so you’ll never lose another. 10 keys for $10 on Amazon…
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That actually worked. I bought a pack of A126 keys from Amazon and was able to reposition all gates to fit. Interesting thing, it also works with my 089 key too.

Only thing is, the a126 key is a little tight in the keyway. Beyond that, it works quite well.
 
dschnur said:
That actually worked. I bought a pack of A126 keys from Amazon and was able to reposition all gates to fit. Interesting thing, it also works with my 089 key too.

Only thing is, the a126 key is a little tight in the keyway. Beyond that, it works quite well.
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Heck yeah, theory confirmed. When I get some time I'll try my machine as well.
 
eharmon said:
Heck yeah, theory confirmed. When I get some time I'll try my machine as well.
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After spending an hour wasting time trying to make a proper shim tool out of aluminum, I gave up and stuck a bunch of jewelers screwdrivers in the same as above.

Removing the third gate successfully rekeyed my N019 to A126. The other gates were already perfectly flush so I kept them. Or, I think so, the barrel inside was slightly sticky (old grease?) so I knocked half the gates out at least once...

For anyone else attempting to replace a missing Quadra key:
  1. If you don't have a key and want the easiest path, buy an "A126" key. It can be listed under many brands, but A126 generally points to the right thing. The A126 is a generic key pattern used for thousand and thousands of devices. You might even have one already for a filing cabinet, etc. Now you'll question how secure that cabinet is.
    1. I doubt A126 matches the original lock codes used by C&K, but if it does, it'd be interesting to see if any Quadras came with an A126.
    2. Alternatively if you want to have a custom key made to a different pattern, buy an IN8 blank.
  2. Check if key A126 works...if it does you are done (please drop a note with the lock code in this thread!), if not, continue
  3. Unplug the key switch from the logic board (front left)
  4. Snake the cable out, it takes some fiddling but you don't have to remove the power supply
  5. Pinch the two plastic lock clips and push forward
  6. The lock will come out of the front of the machine
  7. As @defor suggested, pinch the tiny plastic clips by jamming two slim objects in. I suggest a bright light to see what you're doing.
  8. With some finagling, push the center post out while the plastic clips are pinched
  9. The barrel will come out, and if you're lucky, you won't spill all the gates everywhere
    1. If you stick a key in before you fully remove the barrel it'll prevent this and you'll learn from my mistakes
  10. Now you can re-key:
    1. Insert the key into the barrel, NO metal gates should stick out, only the little tab in the rear
    2. Of course, you know your key doesn't work, so they will
    3. Swap around or remove gates until none stick out, you'll have to remove the key again while you do this
    4. If you only remove gates (no swap) the original key will definitely work too, plus your new key
    5. Now that no gates stick out, the key should work
  11. Or you can measure the gates to have a correct key made, that exercise is left for the reader
  12. Once you're done, leave a key in so the gates don't fall out while you rebuild the lock
  13. Partially re-insert the barrel into the lock, you'll have to slightly depress the plastic tab in the rear for it to insert
    1. It can only go in one direction -- if it won't insert fully, it's upside-down
    2. Insert it almost all the way but before it clicks, so we can do step 13
  14. You can now test the key, it should rotate to the three positions
  15. If it's good, push the barrel all the way in
  16. Follow steps 1-4 in reverse
Anyway, I'm enjoying the rekey since I'll never be short of one again. Mine was also pretty stiff at first, but it's working pretty well already.

(As an aside, it's really baffling there are so many unique keys for this...you can just unplug the machine! Or press the interrupt button! Or open the dang side panel! Why bother? Talk about only "keeping the honest people honest".)
 
CC_333 said:
i wonder if the key could be filed down slightly for a better fit in the keyway?

Some sort of key/lock (graphite?) lubricant might help too.

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I'd bet it can be filed down. The ones I bought are also the quality I expected of a cheap Amazon product. I wouldn't be surprised if they are slightly out of spec.
 
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