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Apple Portrait Display & Macintosh SE

jmacz

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I thought I vaguely remembered seeing Macintosh SE's connected to Apple's Portrait Display monitor. But it's possible I'm thinking of an SE/30 or a Radius monitor, not Apple's.

Anyone know if a video card exists that allows a Macintosh SE to drive an Apple Portrait Display?
 
Yes, the Radius Pivot SE/30 PDS video card, which was quite common in Compacts and also makes for a decent card to drive a standard VGA monitor.

 
Yes, the Radius Pivot SE/30 PDS video card, which was quite common in Compacts and also makes for a decent card to drive a standard VGA monitor.


Yeah, I'm aware of the solutions for the SE/30 but was curious whether a card existed for Macintosh SE's (to drive the monitor in monochrome).
 
You need the something on the order of the SE version of the Radius FPD card for any hopes of running the Apple Portrait Display. It's doubtful if the syncs would align in any case. Even if it could work you're looking at single-bit on the Portrait, not GS.

Just linked to my experimentation with the Radius TPD card in the SE in a parallel thread:

Portrait setup should be much the same kinda rigamarole, haven't played much with that one yet.
 
I believe that Radius and Lapis both made SE video cards capable of driving up to a two page display, so some digging in those veins may be useful. However, the trouble with these cards (as often for the SE/30 too) is that the connector may be proprietary, or even something as unfamiliar to our eyes as a BNC barrel connector. And the Apple Portrait Monitor itself has an extremely odd connection port. It can be driven from a standard Mac DB15 port if you have the appropriate converter cable, but they are not exactly common.

I was pretty sure that I had seen a pic of an SE hooked up to a FPD somewhere, and lo and behold, have managed to find the image here: .

You could try contacting the guy on Flickr. He seems to be an SE fan and may know the deep lore.
 
I believe that Radius and Lapis both made SE video cards
As did a lot of other manufacturers. A lot of video cards for the SE were kind of "universal" as in that the video controller was a FPGA that would get the bitstream for different resolutions and timings loaded by an INIT. That's how Lapis did it, a lot of combined accelerator/video cards did it the same way (Mobius, Extreme Systems/Total Systems/*randomword*Systems, Novy... just to name a few)

Radius themselves had three different cards for the SE I think. They all were "Magicbus" cards that either needed the jumper card to attach to the PDS or would plug into one of the Radius accelerators (and I think a few accelerators from other vendors had a compatible port as well)
I've got the Two Page Display card:
Radius_Two_Page_SE-2.jpg
The Full Page Display 69/75Hz:
Radius_SE_FPD_69_75.jpeg
And the Full Page Display 64/68Hz:
Radius_SE_FPD_64_48.jpeg

The older Full Page card outputs TTL, the 75Hz card while there is no RAMDAC outputs separate sync signals and a level reduced TTL signal to drive the analog channel on the newer 75Hz displays.
The Two Page card outputs a single analog channel that includes composite sync.

The Radius Full Page Display 69/75 card should be able to drive the Apple full page monitor.
 
I have an SE with a Lapis card, 9 pin. I have been trying to run a Radius FPD with the same 9 pin connection but I have not had any luck. Anyway, here are the pictures of the card and the ports. I have tried to learn what the problem is as I can find no particular software on the original HD that relates to the card. For reference and would appreciate any suggestions from the knowledgable crowd.
 

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I don't suppose any of you with SE cards have the ROM images handy? No worries if not. Those are always interesting to disassemble because of the not-entirely-structured way cards had to work on the SE.
 
I don't suppose any of you with SE cards have the ROM images handy? No worries if not. Those are always interesting to disassemble because of the not-entirely-structured way cards had to work on the SE.
I would love to do that with all my cards but ... I don't have any ROM dumper :-/
I will ask a friend of mine to see if he can help for that.
 
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