Dog Cow Posted May 21 Author Report Share Posted May 21 Yes, a null modem cable is all you need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
demik Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 thanks, email send Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 (edited) Beta 4 due to be released this weekend. Beta testers welcome. My email address is below in my signature. Edited August 6 by Dog Cow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mactjaap Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Made a quick test with PPP beta 4 rc4. It has now system wide statistics, so you can see what you are doing. It did a ping and send some words to port 7 over UDP. Here is the video. https://youtu.be/smZR3YoJtn4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 On 8/23/2020 at 4:13 AM, mactjaap said: Made a quick test with PPP beta 4 rc4. https://youtu.be/smZR3YoJtn4 Thanks for making this video showing TCP/IP running on a Mac 128K! TCP send and receive functions are working, and it won't be long till you have Telnet running on a Mac 128K too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk.558 Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 bbraun should be also know a thing or two about these protocols. For FTP, a custom program will probably have to be written. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, Mk.558 said: bbraun should be also know a thing or two about these protocols. For FTP, a custom program will probably have to be written. Is he still active in the community? Sabina TCP is incompatible with all other applications, so I plan on writing them too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk.558 Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 (edited) Good question. His profile on his(?) website shows no recent posts in over a year. Maybe he's on a break. Can't blame him -- look at some of the work he's done. FWIW the lightest FTP program that actually is nice is Fetch 2.1.2, I"m a big fan of it, but it's also about 500KiB on disk and uses about the same in memory. The trusty old Info-Mac archives may have something? https://web.archive.org/web/20160418233005/http://archive.info-mac.org/ I doubt any of that is meant for super thin resource requirements. Probably shareware/freeware, I don't think they had much else up there. AFAIK most people had Pluses if they were fooling around with TCP stuff back in the day, or better, if they had a 128K/512K they were on BBS using a terminal emulator. Just thinking about the FTP program, Font/DA Mover .... *walks over to the SE/30*...hold on, I need a memory utility to find out how much it uses, will update shortly... Anyways is pretty lightweight and can show directories/copy/move things over, I can't imagine that being that far off from the minimum you need to browse/navigate/PUT/GET files remotely. EDIT2: Right here we go. There's two programs I know of (I hope there's a few more) that can show memory usage. MemINIT 2.0.5, which can be found readily on umich's public software source (I'm aware that 68kmla is not a file sharing source, but it's freeware), and Memory Mapper. The former...says it needs at least System 5.0 (S4.2/4.3, F6.0) and a 512Ke. It works by offering a pie chart which overlays the Apple menu, and/or drawing a 1px line over the screen image which is used like a line graph. I don't think this will screenshot properly because it's hooking into the Vertical Blanking task. So below are two images: one showing the CDEV itself, showing the settings, and the other with Font/DA Mover open. Each tic mark denotes 64KiB. There is one white 1px mark right above the cursor. Based on that we can judge that it's using roughly 96KiB, maybe 100KiB. That's going to be pretty tight on a 128K, but not impossible (I'm accounting for the TCP and FTP routines). Then you also need space to copy files in blocks in memory, I think. Edited August 25 by Mk.558 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk.558 Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 Looks like I went past the edit time limit. I was actually wrong about the screenshot part, it is captured by the screenshot feature, intact. I guess I got thrown off by when I first used it, on a color IIci. From the way it looked it appeared to have drawn the 1px line above the actual menu bar itself. Could be wrong about that too. Carry on. I'm getting way off track from the topic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 Thanks for looking into this. I have a concept for FTP where you would have two windows full of icons. It would work like the Finder. To download, you drag an icon to your local folder. You could choose Get Info on an icon to find out its file size, type, and creation/modification dates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted November 10 Author Report Share Posted November 10 Beta 5 is now out for testing. Features the first real TCP/IP application, a prototype POP3 email client. It logs in and downloads messages and saves them as text files on your disk. Email me if you'd like to beta test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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