WakelessFoil Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 I recently got my Macintosh Plus working with all 4 MB of ram. I have an Asante EN/SC Ethernet to SCSI adapter and want to put it to some use. I hooked up everything and downloaded the EN/SC EtherTalk software along with AppleTalk 57.0.4. Installed it on system 7.1 and also got MacTCP 2.0.6. I made sure to hook the adapter to a 10base-T only hub so it wouldn’t get confused with 10/100. I tried to configure the TCP/IP settings but I don’t think it’s making a connection at all. MacWeb won’t connect or load it just spits out an error code as if the machine was connected to nothing. any help and/or advice is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArmorAlley Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Are you sure that all of the hardware works as it should? Have you checked that the SCSI port on the Plus works? And that the 10 base-T router works? And that the cables work? I mention it because the SCSI on my IIfx has gone and I only have a 10 base-T router that has given up the ghost. It is a hazard of old machinery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yes I am sure all of the hardware is functioning properly. I have tested the Plus's SCSI port with an external drive so I know that's working. The EN/SC is blinking indicating it is receiving information and I did a speed test with the hub with a modern laptop and it didn't skip a beat. No more than 10 Mbps. When running the Asante Troubleshooter I can even see that the machine is receiving packets. I suspect that either something is wrong with MacWeb or that the TCP/IP settings aren't configured correctly. Not super experienced in networking especially with exotic hardware like this. Below is an image of the test indicating that it is receiving packets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog Cow Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, WakelessFoil said: or that the TCP/IP settings aren't configured correctly Probably this is the cause. Do you have any other computers on the local Ethernet network? If so, how do their TCP/IP settings compare to what MacTCP has? The router (gateway) address and subnet mask should be the same on all computers on your local network. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K Trueno Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Have you set the IP manually and is it sticking around in the MacTCP panel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olePigeon Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Is the DNS also filled in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yes to both. The IP is staying when I leave MacTCP but I do not see it appearing in my routers DHCP settings. I configured the DNS by what I read from another forum on this sight. Someone said that the Domain should be a single period and the domain IP should be that of your router. I am curious if it has something to do with the MAC address (or lack there of). In addition to all this when I installed MacTCP it didn't automatically plant in my control panel I had to move it there. (Just a side note in case that would indicate an incorrect installation of the software. PS: I am also using a WiFi bridge/Extender to make the Ethernet connection don't know if that would make any difference, it has it's own IP separate from the router. Below are some images of my MacTCP control panel and my router settings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cory5412 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 5 hours ago, WakelessFoil said: but I do not see it appearing in my routers DHCP settings If you're configuring it manually, it might not, since you're configuring the device not to request DHCP. 5 hours ago, WakelessFoil said: PS: I am also using a WiFi bridge/Extender to make the Ethernet connection don't know if that would make any difference, it has it's own IP separate from the router. Your Wi-Fi brudge/extender might or might not cause problems, too. Have you tested it with another computer to 1) make sure you're not introducing double-NAT and then accounting for it 2) other kinds of devices receive network connectivity (plug a laptop in, basically) Double NAT isn't a problem per se, but you'll need to configure clients on it to be part of its network. If your main router is in the 192.168.0.x range and your wifi bridge is hosting the network 102.168.3.x your MacTCP will need to use an IP In that range. If it's an actual pure bridge then it shouldn't matter, but it's worth checking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K Trueno Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Yup check the things Cory has mentioned. Simplify the network then go complex (i.e. start with a laptop direct connection (with a cross-over cable depending on your laptop), then add stuff in between after. Also, you mention a "10base-T only hub". Old hubs have a uplink port which you might want to just ignore until you know what you are dealing with. Modern stuff does auto-crossover things but old ones don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted May 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) Thank you for all the responses. I will try everything I have been suggested and post my results after experimenting. I connected my MacBook to the hub and was able to obtain a connection of <10Mbps. On another note I applied the MacTCP 2.1 patch that Glenn Anderson made and it changed the panel look and made things look a little simpler. This may do nothing but it was worth a try. Also here is a post of someone who succeeded with a very similar setup: http://lowendmac.com/rivera/05/1129.html Below is a diagram showing the current hardware configuration. Edited May 6, 2019 by WakelessFoil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessFoil Posted March 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 It works!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sstaylor Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 You'll have to let us know what the secret sauce was. It's funny, I had been reading through this nearly year-old thread just as you posted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kaa Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 Cangrats!!! I'm also curious what the solution was. It's also kinda weird seeing the Google splash screen on a Plus =P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Will Cheyney Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 @WakelessFoil Please let us know what you did! I have never been able to get networking on my Classic Macs successfully working with Asante cards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidg5678 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 @Will Cheyney, Did you ever get a 10Mbit ethernet switch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Will Cheyney Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 19 hours ago, davidg5678 said: @Will Cheyney, Did you ever get a 10Mbit ethernet switch? @davidg5678 I did. To no avail! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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