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  1. Much as I love G5's, I must concede that the PCI-X dual-processor machines are one of the biggest pile of junk paperweight boat anchors Apple ever made... I parted my flakey dual-2.0 out some time ago as I frankly could not even be bothered with a reflow on what is just an all out badly engineered machine. The PCIe 2.0 dual-core that replaced it is a far better, faster, more stable and also much cooler running machine which has given me next to no trouble with hardware other than the DVD drive going on the fritz, which is a normal wear and tear item in my books.

  2. I find the 580 display cringeworthy in all honesty, however I had a 575 for some time, as well as the Diamondtron CRT Studio display and the beautiful Pismo LCD to compare with... Basically all the best monitors apple ever had, so I guess really any cheap 14" CRT is going to be hard to swallow by comparison.


    For what the machine can do, it is adequate however. And a cool simple little hack I did involved using a 6xxx series logic board with the 580 backing plate screwed in and creating a nice compact little AIO Powermac... albeit a fairly slow one. However back in the early 2000's when I did it, it was still a usable machine in this guise.

  3. I still used my SE Superdrive for word processing until about 10 years ago as it was nice typing on a crisp monochrome CRT with a small screen diameter that allows you to  keep a constant line of sight and minimise eye fatigue to an extent. Tbh, if I had space to set one up permanantly, without being obtrusive, I would fully recap one of m Classics and keep using it for this purpose. As it stands, the SE now lives in a dark walk-in robe in a room without windows to prevent yellowing its nearly mint condition case plastics, and only comes out on occasions. I guess you could say it probably is the pride of my collection alongside the 200MP, the difference being that the latter has a pretty patchy case, is 10 years younger, and is vastly more useful so I am happy to use it daily.

  4. Oh and sooner or later I expect some enterprising person will be buying up old CRT monitors just to gut them an install LCD panels to give that retro look but reduce eye strain and energy costs.


    I intend on doing this with my 750AV... they were usually a paperweight after a few years, and mine is no exception. I have no intent to fix whatever is stopping it powering up... simply going to install an LCD and throw the rest of the old internals in the garbo so I have a nice, superficially period and context correct Apple display for my 9600 that is reliable and wont give me headaches.




    I also keep a small stash of CRT monitors, plus a Radius Pivot but some of the late 90's Apple monitors I do NOT keep around are the early CRT Cinema displays.

    I don't care what you say about them, they are fire hazards. Do not use them and recycle them on sight to get them out of the collectors loop before they burn someone elses house down or at least permanently disable it so it can be shown off but never used.



    The earlier VGA ones.


    For the life of me I can't find the source that mentioned it but there was a period when they and the transparent power cables were randomly catching fire.


    I can't help but feel this is a slight bit of an overdramatization of the risk, if any exists... Not trying to be inflammatory or state point blank that these displays NEVER caught fire in isolated cases, but there appears to be absolutely no verifiable citations of it ever actually having occurred... Given that I have owned one for years it is in my best interest to do some searching of my own, so I did, and aside from a couple of threads on here dating back a few years, one of which contained a link to an apparantly deleted thread on MacWorld, there are absolutely none which even really allude to any specific involvement of CRT Studio Displays in fires. The only thing that remotely even mentions it after searching numerous strings and sifting through pages and pages of search results is this on TS...




    It however, specifically pertains to a monitor that was obtained with a partly severed VGA cable which was repaired with electrical tape (!!!). It however was merely referencing a statement from a Genius or some such "qualified" person that the cable may heat up and catch fire... tbh this seems unlikely for a data cable to do this. Power cable, maybe, but this would not be an issue with specifically this display. Any badly repaired cable would have this associated (and very real risk). As it turned out, the OP later goes on to state no such effects in the slightest.


    The only other references I can find are from two of your own comments in seperate threads on 68k in the past, Where you cite two sources, one of which contained the deleted thread i mentioned earlier in this post, and the other being a word of mouth anecdote from a contact of yours. Whilst not necessarily a false claim, neither can can be verified in any way thus far, and even if they could, there is no mention of any similar cases anywhere on the web to suggest that it was in any way an endemic fault with that series of CRT display... there is literally not one single mention made of one of these displays having caught fire aside from those two past comments you placed on here previously.


    Having said this, I also took the liberty of doing some general searches for reports of such fires, and only turned this up, which was in relation to a recall issued in the early 2000's that applied specifically to a series of 15" CRT's sold under the IBM brand but manufactured by Lite-On Inc. in 1997.





    As the Apple displays ran Mitsubishi Diamondtron tubes and such, I did a search of incidents involving specifically these CRT's, and again turned up nothing involving even remotely related hardware. Fair enough, the circuitry is probably partly a Foxconn concern but even then, there is a complete lack of citation in any case. Even assuming that a single display, even two of them DID in fact burn up, that is hardly enough to state that every one of the thousands built in all sizes and both colours is a fire hazard... I had mine turned on nearly 3 years straight before I deinstalled it for being too damn big and not matching my 9600 aesthetically after retiring the G4. Had an occasional flicker as they all develop eventually as well, yes, some of the compinentry back then was pretty flakey in Apple CRT's. But there is really nothing to suggest they were "Burn your house down" kinda flakey... Yes, there is always a risk of fire in ultra high voltage electrical equipment, but it is minimal, and it seems that there is nothing to say the Studio Display poses a risk that is any higher than the next CRT.


    And well, if there was a significant risk that Apple knew about at that time it wouldve resulted in a voluntary recall... the Pismo/Lombard power bricks were recalled at around that time due to them running hot and posing a fire risk under some fairly unlikely circumstances. I know this as I had mine replaced. the number of incidents was able to be counted on one hand, yet prompted action. If similar incidents occurred with the Studio monitors that were not very very isolated, these would have also been addressed I would imagine.


    Now as for the cables themselves, that may or may not be a different story... I have known the clear cables to fail. Not endemically but enough to warrant caution. So it is possible that somewhere along the line one may have shorted or heated up due to excessive resistance and started a fire. But if this is the case, then it is more correct to blame the cable than the actual CRT, and given that the cable is replacable with one of better quality than the crap Apple loosely describe as cables since the fruity era, this is really a non-issue after doing just that. I do know that a common failure point in the early yoyo Powerbook/iBook adators was the main power cable, which with repeated ocillations would break near the plug internally and this DID cause quite a number of verifiable fires. The altered the cable on the later model yoyo adaptors which fixed the issue to a degree, but they still did sometimes kink and fail to work... but not so readily burn up.


    Anyway... like I said, not calling anybody a liar or trying to be deliberately inflammatory. I just feel a bit of perspective is in order, and I also feel that the vote of zero-confidence in these pieces of equipment is rather unjustified, when not a single horror story can be found from the horses mouth or a verifiable and reliable authority. Personally I am not in any way concerned about the safety of my Studio 17"... Your opinion is yours however so do with mine what you will. :)


    BUt anyway, back on topic... yes I keep a selection of Mac monitors around, particularly the Trinitron ones, as I do not like using crummy old muddy VGA crap on my old Macs when I can have crisp Sony goodness witht the right badge. That, and I know they will usually work on anything. Except my Apple 21" single-res... i beleive there is a lot of vintage Mac stuff it wont work on. That said, right now it doesnt work, period lol.

  5. speaking house on fire, and installing tantilums in the LC-III.

    did you happen to remember that C22 has an error on the silk screen?


    witch is probably ok with Stock Electrolytic… or even ceramics.  but Not tantilums… they can catch fire and burn.





    Holy crap on a cracker.... This makes me a little uncomfortable, and makes me far happier to just replace electrolytics every 10 years.


    Also I am curious as to what this error is at C22 on certain LCIII's.

  6. I would love to see a power pc upgrade for a performa, rather than a board swap.  That would be pretty unique.


    I thought one or two did exist back in the days of the early 601 machines... would have been fairly easy to implement givn they were architecturally rather similar.  That said, in the presence of factory boards that slot straight in, I assume the market would have been  limited.

  7. Hands down, I must choose the SE, specifically the FDHD amd SuperDrive models as they are realistically the most useful, having an internal hard drive and ROM support for the HD FDD out of the box. I choose the SE by virtue of reliability and good engineering alone... in most other respects they are the same as any other 8MHz compact. Unlike the Plus however, the SE has active cooling, rather than convection cooling and the associated shortening of lifespans on the AB componentry as suffered by the Plus, and also 128k and 512K. There are still no SMD electrolytics in sight on the SE, so logic board rot or cap failure an almost a non-issue. The implementation of ADB is also very much a positive in favour of the SE, rather than that ridiculous RJ11/DB9 serial combination of input device sockets, and of course, the PDS slot, unique to the SE and SE/30. They also have the nicest looking case in my opinion. Whilst I do enjoy the Classic, it really is operationally just a  cheapened SE, without any expansion slot, and with terrible surface mount electrolytic capacitors on the logic board that claim many a Classic... So realistically it can hardly be rated as the best as it performs the same, has no processor direct expandability, and breaks more readily. The Classic isnt an intrinsically bad machine in concept, being a little faster and better, and just as sexy, but unfortunately it is let down by the same issues  that let down the Classic so it is a bit of a vote of little confidence also.


    The SE/30 is definitely worthy of second place by virtue of the huge amount of power and potential it packed into that tiny little SE case, however it is very much let down by the rubbish logic board capacitors also, having some of the absolute worst of cap rot issues. For this reason, it will oonly ever get second place in my books.


    So yes, all things taken into account, the SE FDHD and SE SuperDrive are the winners for me. :)

  8. I suddenly just got to feeling really old with talks of abandoned landline services and modems possibly not working... Hell, it seems like not that long ago I was still looking up pr0n0graphic images as a teenager in my bedroom at 2am with the volume turned down on my 33.6k external modem so as not to wake the parents or my young siblings.

  9. Yep, that is ENTIRELY unacceptable "packaging", and ownership lies squarely in the court of the seller, not the shipping company... even handled like eggshells, the machine would have broken just from movement during transport, due to lack of any packaging in the box. This completely useless moron deserves to be held to acount for his sheer laziness and failure to meet his obligation as a seller. You paid for a working and complete machine, and you got a splintered wreck, due to the sellers lack of care alone, so as such I would say compensation is in order for the product you realistically did not receive.

  10. Yes, definitely do the caps as a precautionary measure as soon as practical to do so... you will find a lot of CC's tend to not want to power up when the caps start to go bad. This is often initially due to leaked goo shorting componentr, and they will come good with a toothbrushing. But this is only a temp fix... eventually as more goop leaks and the caps fall further out of spec, the problems become more frequent and varied, until the machine becomes unusable.

  11. Well played sir! :) I have just restored one of these myself and have a second one to do later, which needs some more in depth work. :)


    For secondhand drives, eBay is likely your best bet, however if you are confident with the lid off the drive, you may find the problem to be a simple matter of the heads being stuck against the degraded rubber bumpstops which if the heads havent smeared rubbery goo all over the platters, you may fix. This may not be a guaranteed fix but worth a try all the same... for what it's worth, no harm can come from opening a drive thatd otherwise be considered rubbish. :) If you do a quick search you should find a thread covering this, specific to the Quantum Prodrive ELS used in most Mac's of that era.


    Also do a search of the bigmessowires SCSI2SD hack as a possibly more permanant solution to the issue of failing mechanical HDD's. :)

  12. Well the answer is yes and no.


    The floppy drive will probably work, but IIRC IIsi's and IIci's are of the auto-inject type and the Performa is not.


    Concerning the CD rom, the 6200 is 4X where the G3 is 24X, and i have no 6200 but the CD rom is probably still SCSI when the G3 is ATAPI.



    Correct as far as the floppy drive goes... will work but will not be able to be used with the case on, as no, they arent auto-inject whereas the IIci and IIsi are... this said, if it works, you definitely should hold onto it as a testing, go-to and whatever device.


    As for the CD-ROM drive, whilst it is correct on both counts  that the beige G3 came with a 24x ATAPI CD-ROM, it also was the last desktop Mac to ship with an onboard SCSI controller and has an internal fast-SCSI port and supports SCSI booting. As such, in dire straits there is no reason you could not still use the SCSi device also.


    That said, it should also work in a Q630 also.


    I hold onto all my working drives as they are getting to an age where they are failing a little more than they once did.

  13. Here we go... simply replace the extension and you are good to go. :)




    This is to my knowlege an issue and a fix specific to the beige G3 series... The pre-G3 Powermac's had an issue under certain circumstances where transferring large files across the inbuilt ethernet would hang the system, however this was covered by a seperate fix. This off memory affected the 75xx/85xx/95xx series and their related x6xx counterparts (also likely the 7300 and maybe WGS7350 as they use the same board architecture as the 7500 except with the AV subsystem componentry deleted.

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