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  1. Macs have always been very particular when it comes to RAM. You can't just slap generic RAM made for a PC in them and expect it to work even when the specifications are the same. You might get lucky, but probably not. Apple sprinkles some kind of patented, magical fairy dust on their RAM or something to make it work. That's why they charge so much for memory upgrades. I just bought two 8gb sticks of DDR3 for my new to me Macbook and made sure it was made for Mac from a reputable seller located in a first world country and not generic PC junk RAM from a seller in China. It cost more than the ge
  2. These are a lot of fun with a 1ghz G4 and Radeon 9200 in them. I have those installed in mine.
  3. Scooped up the last of the white Macbooks. Has 2gb RAM and 250gb hard drive for $100 but going in is 16gb, 2tb Seagate Firecuda SSHD and higher capacity battery from OWC. They're good with High Sierra without hacks, believe it or not. Going to run with this setup until prices come down on a non touch-bar, retina screen 13" Macbook Pro model.
  4. A Quadra with a PPC upgrade is going to cost too much. Better to go with a 7100 or 8100 machine as they haven't really caught on with collectors yet. The soldered in 601 combined with the inability to run OS X even with a G3 upgrade makes many people avoid them like the plague. The later PCI Powermacs manage to steal most of their thunder since you can take them so much farther than the Nubus machines. I built a Quadra/PPC machine when the parts were still available and cheap, but if I had to do it again today I'd just put a 7100 motherboard in my IIvx case.
  5. It still seems like a lot of trouble when a dual 500 CPU is like $20 now and a whole QS machine can be had for $50 plus shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerMac-G4-M8493-733MHz-640MB-RAM-NO-HDD-/231378851401?pt=Apple_Desktops&hash=item35df411649 $39.00 + $10 shipping, bring your own hard drive. Oh, and you do know the 733 Quicksilver CPU has no level 3 cache, right? A 733 Digital Audio CPU is faster because it has the cache.
  6. Can this even be done? The Gigabit Ethernet uses a 100mhz bus, the Digital Audio and Quicksilver use 133mhz bus. If it does work, you won't get 733mhz from it because 733 isn't a multiple of 100. You'll get 550 at best, if it works at all and if 550 is all you're going to get then you'll be better off with a dual 450 or 500 CPU card that was made for the Gigabit Ethernet.
  7. The Lisa is a much higher value machine than a G3 AIO so you can afford to pay $100+ for shipping and still keep the price within reasonable limits. Lisa's also appreciate faster than G3 AIO's so you'll get back that shipping charge when you resell.
  8. I've seen the non-Apple branded RAM chips for sale cheaper than what you have found them for BUT the electronics supply houses that I have seen them for sale in all have a minimum order requirement. I would have had to have bought dozens of them to meet the minimum and I have no use for that many. I found a 128k board on ebay Australia that had the RAM chips removed because at one point the owner wanted to do a homebrew 512k upgrade but never got around to it. I got the board and the original chips in a plastic bag shipped from New Zealand for like $100 and if you've seen shipping charges from
  9. The G3 AIO is way too heavy. The shipping on them is a deal killer. If you can pick one up locally, it's nice, but if you have to have it shipped you'll be paying way more than the machine is worth.
  10. It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to valuations. An item that sells high today might not sell at all tomorrow. If the right people see it and are they able to pay more, then you'll get more. The market can be strange that way sometimes.
  11. You would have to be a really demanding power user to actually need 128mb in a Mac that old. Upgrading it that high just because you can when you have no use for it is a questionable use of your vintage computing funds when you could be using that money for acquiring something else for your collection. Unless you have an unlimited budget and don't have to worry about things like rent, food, and utilities.
  12. http://lowendmac.com/2007/hacking-mac-os-7-6-1-to-work-with-many-os-8-apps/ MacOS 8 (the early versions, at least) are still largely based on System 7, that's why so much software is backward compatible with System 7. The only reason for the name change was so Steve Jobs could get out of the clone contracts which stated that Apple would only allow the clones for as long as System 7 was still being marketed and then the contracts would have to be renegotiated for MacOS 8. The only exception was Power Computing who managed to get a much sweeter deal from Apple than the rest of the clone make
  13. Unfortunately, my only Kansas machine is a 8600/250, so no PCI conflicts to worry about there. I do have a 9500, but it's not upgraded and opening that case is too much of a pain to bother with. Does anyone know if a 9500 motherboard will work in a 9600 case? Physically, they look identical to me.
  14. So does anyone know at what speed a single G3 begins to outperform the dual 604e's on this card?
  15. Agree with Gorgonops about not dumping too much money into this machine. A 3,1 8-core Mac Pro can be bought in the $500 range now and will run 10.10 Yosemite. No sense investing that much in a 1,1 at this point.
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