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MacMoose
Junior Member


USA
176 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  08:37:31
Why is it that Unix is often referred to as a truly modern operating system, when it also happens to be one of the most ancient and archaic OS's out there?

Just wondering?

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Wonkothesane
Full Member


USA
506 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:02:20
When Unix was made about 30 years ago, it had features that most "modern" operating systems only recently implemented. For example, Unix has had protected memory for 30 years, while Windoze and the MacOS are only putting that feature into their mainstream operating systems today. All other operating systems are just playing catch-up.

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:19:42
quote:

Why is it that Unix is often referred to as a truly modern operating system, when it also happens to be one of the most ancient and archaic OS's out there?

it's ancient - but archaic can have a hunnerd meanings.

It was developed to be used, not for reasons driven by, say, MS or Apple philosophy - whether that be 'make money' or 'take over the world' or 'be damned cool' (like 605's are cool). It prolly has the widest group of coders ever having worked for it in business, research, academic use... It prolly has one of the broadest base of coders who've worked on it, and refined it over 30-something-years.

Taking a few other common ones too - Windows, MacOS, AmigaDOS etc, were designed for machines which were scaled down consumer devices, with no MMU's, no FPU's, no networking - and lacking in even the -ability- to perform a lot of the useful basic features of OS's now. the unixes started out from scratch on machines which had all of those capabilities. It's only in the last 5 years or so that near every home puter, like PPC macs, have alla that. Unixes have just been there, done that before - and 25 years before. All the more experienced n refined :D

Thats my thoughts on it anyhows, typed out ad-hoc. There's prolly more reasons why it works well :D. It doesn't quite explain why you'd call it 'modern' but I think it explains why it's advanced!

dana

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:28:19
Because UNIX has had over 30 years to get it all right.

Most of the servers onthe Internet (home boxes on high bandwidth lines not withstanding) run some kind of UNIX or Linux operating system. As consumers have demanded more stability, UNIX became more and more attractive to Apple. Why write code when you can use code already written to do the same thing?

UNIX has over it's lifetime had thousands of code monkeys working on it, cleaning it, tuning it, and making it rock solid stable. It has all the "modern" features, which are only modern because they are features the "not-modern" consumer OSes didn't have.

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:31:12
Damn... outposted by my fellow mod...

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:35:24
quote:

Damn... outposted by my fellow mod...

We does knows our stuffs, we does :D

dana

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SuperMod
Moderator


Canary Islands
66 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:49:15
Given the seeming average age of the members around here (and more pointedly the mods) are you sure you want people Museing about you Dana?

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  09:58:34
quote:

Given the seeming average age of the members around here (and more pointedly the mods) are you sure you want people Museing about you Dana?

~Marchie

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ROTFLMAO! *gets up dusts himself off and points to the waffle pattern on marchie's earlobe and figures there was a Rocket/040/heat sink somewhere on top of the pile of NuBus cards at the end of SuperMod's flight path. *OUCH! doubles up in laughter but manages to stay on his feet this time*

*gasps for breath*

jt

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 26 Mar 2002 :  18:36:00
After all, "dana si secksi"...

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Tallgeese
Full Member


USA
523 Posts
Posted - 27 Mar 2002 :  10:47:47

Hey, come now... If it weren't for that sort of thing, what would remind us that we were using the internet?

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 27 Mar 2002 :  19:31:21
Uh, the keyboards and the long wait???

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