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alcoa
Full Member


Albania
543 Posts
Posted - 14 Mar 2002 :  22:31:58
i nabbed a trayless laserwriter IIg for fifteen bucks along with my stack of Mac II's. the tray from my IInt doesnt seem to work in it, should it? does anybody know if the logic board from the IIg will work in the IInt in case it's the mechanism that's shot? looks like a lot nicer board with RS-232 and AAUI in addition to SCSI and Appletalk.

tia
jt

alcoa
Full Member


Albania
543 Posts
Posted - 15 Mar 2002 :  00:35:15
found this artlcle:
http://fixyourownprinter.com/printer/2/1651.html

for $15, my IInt is now a LaserWriter IIg that's Postscript Level 2 and FAST! swapped out the IInt board with the one from the IIg with 8 megs on it and ZOOOOOOOOOOOM! now i have to find out if 32Megs from one of the IIfx's will work in it. black and white piccies from the eyemodule print much better and MUUUCH faster, gotta try AI9, maybe i won't have to use Acrobat reader as a print-workaround anymore!

what do IIg boards go for now on e-bay? there are a few more down there if anybody needs one to upgrade an older LaserWriter II. if anyone lives in the NYC vicinity, you can grab an entire IIg (sans paper tray) for around $20 (that was for quantity of 5). the whole printer might even work and the toner in the cartridge might be worth the price, Argo Electronics on Canal off Sixth.

muawahahahahahahaha!

jt

=8-)

back again: SAFETY TIDBIT

quote:

If you vacuum toner with an ordinary vacuum, a static charge from the toner will build up in the vacuum and shock you. Toner works by static charge. Moving it, as in vacuuming, causes it to give up its charge to the vacuum. Without having a complete ground throughout the entire vacuum can cause charge to build up to quite a high potential. Be safe, use a toner vacuum.


interesting source:
http://straylight.cso.niu.edu/repairfaq/sam/printfaq.htm#pcfappleti

I've been whacked by sawdust/shopvac/dust collector systems and that makes the worst carpet induced charge seem WIMPY! Trust me, you don't wanna try it with a substance specifically engineered for operating via static charge differentials! Also, you don't want your computer equipment to be the first thing you touch after vacuuming ANYTHING.


Edited by - alcoa on 15 Mar 2002 06:06:33Go to Top of Page

danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 15 Mar 2002 :  07:25:07
quote:

I've been whacked by sawdust/shopvac/dust collector systems and that makes the worst carpet induced charge seem WIMPY! Trust me, you don't wanna try it with a substance specifically engineered for operating via static charge differentials! Also, you don't want your computer equipment to be the first thing you touch after vacuuming ANYTHING.


When I did prepress stuff, the colour photocopier techs (two very cool guys) advised us that apart from getting EVERYWHERE, the toner, being such fine plastic dust, can also be explosive when fluffed everywhere n staticked. Not only that, but it's such fine stuff, when you breathe it in... the wrong types of toner can leap straight across the air/blood boundary in your lungs. I don't know how much was crap, but I don't care much for the mess it causes... :D

As for my kidneys n liver filtering plastic... I dunno if they were designed for that!

dana

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 15 Mar 2002 :  10:58:19
Toner and copy toner is fine enough that it's used for lifting finger prints. If youaren;t aware of it, I'd get Toner refill kits to re-use the toner tanks. It's ALOT cheaper, and the tanks can be recarged 3 to 6 times.

I have a IINTX that I'm attempting to get working. The paper feed isn;t working right yet.

~Marchie

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  15:58:14
Better yet, I've snagged a IIf.

it's not Ethernet, but OS X will print to it!

I beleive it has a few issues, but between the parts from the IIntx and it, I shoul dhave a fully working printer.

~Marchie

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-Wand of Power with Shocking Flyback Transformer Tip
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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  18:02:38
I may be able to get a Localtalk-Ethernet hardware bridge... here comes my HP 5MP printing in OS X!!!

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  20:33:43
quote:

I may be able to get a Localtalk-Ethernet hardware bridge...
- ~Coxy

Why not just take an older Mac with an Ethernet card, install LocalTalk Bridge on it, and have it running headless or something? That's what I do... (or at least, what I will do once I get a new power supply for my IIf and get it running... that will happen this summer.)

GORDOOM
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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  20:41:30
quote:

quote:

I may be able to get a Localtalk-Ethernet hardware bridge...
- ~Coxy

Why not just take an older Mac with an Ethernet card, install LocalTalk Bridge on it, and have it running headless or something? That's what I do... (or at least, what I will do once I get a new power supply for my IIf and get it running... that will happen this summer.)



i have heard this described a few times, a link to a howto would be excellent, if a really comprehensive one is not readily available, i think one might make for excellent content here.

as would a shared, commented list of everybody's favorite links.

jt

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  21:08:31
The router, or the software solution? I was going to run the software anyway, but that would mean that I'd need to leave a mac on... 50 watts minimum, that is.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 19 Mar 2002 :  21:32:22
quote:

The router, or the software solution? I was going to run the software anyway, but that would mean that I'd need to leave a mac on... 50 watts minimum, that is.


the software, the hardware comes with instructions and is duck soup to begin with.

jt

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts
Posted - 20 Mar 2002 :  04:15:23
Instructions:

1. Find a Mac with an Ethernet card. (The Mac has to have at least an '020 and should be running 7.1. It is recommended by Apple that the Mac be using Open Transport, rather than classic networking.)

2. Connect it to the Ethernet network in the normal fashion.

3. Connect it to the LocalTalk network in the normal fashion.

4. Install the LocalTalk Bridge control panel onto the Mac. Restart.

5. Configure the Mac for AppleTalk networking via Ethernet in the usual way.

6. In the LocalTalk Bridge control panel, turn the LocalTalk Bridge on and set its mode of network access to "public."

After completing these steps, devices on either the LocalTalk or the Ethernet network should be able to see each other and interact.

Is that of any use to anyone? :)

GORDOOM
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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 20 Mar 2002 :  15:07:47
If you plan on useing OS X with the LocalTalk prnters, you should REALLY get OpenTransport on the Bridging computer.

Just my tidbit.

~Marchie

~Chaplain Marchie

Holder of the Compact Mac -
-Stick of Justice, with Explodeing CRT head

-Wand of Power with Shocking Flyback Transformer Tip
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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 20 Mar 2002 :  16:07:44
quote:

If you plan on useing OS X with the LocalTalk prnters, you should REALLY get OpenTransport on the Bridging computer.


thanks guys!

hey, marchie, i cleaned out the rest of the IIg's downtown, now i've got FOUR LaserWriter II's (w/o trays) that won't feed from the only tray in the shop that works just fine on my original IInt(now a IIg).

offhand, do you (or anybody else) know of a part that might be bad/worn out on all four feed mechanisms? or an adjustment that might be necessary?

jt *getting ready to print out an FM to R*

back again, think i found it at the site i linked above! *yawns*
http://fixyourownprinter.com/kaa0.html

this makes sense because they all leave the same dirty smudge in the same place and the paper stops at the same location on all four.

*figures he needs some sleep!*

Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 20 Mar 2002 16:14:32Go to Top of Page

   

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