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Rexzilla
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132 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  01:29:39
An MLA booth at MacWorld...that would be kinda wierd. A booth show our latest 68k system hacks...that would make Steve Jobs take a double take. Maybe we could have a contest there to see just how high we could stack our "pizza" style macs. A booth showing designer Mac II cases might be nice...anyone for a dayglo Mac IIfx?

TiMacLover
Senior Member


USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  03:29:08
You can totally count me in, I'd get up money for these if everyone else would help out too, but we would have to do it at MacWorld SF I live not too far from there and I would be able to stay for the whole time and wounder the audience.

Jeremy

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~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  05:52:59
Do you know how much that kind of thing costs? I'll bet it's far too expensive...

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  07:04:05
quote:

Do you know how much that kind of thing costs? I'll bet it's far too expensive...


I would not be at all surprised if free booth space were availabe for "organizations" such as 68kMLA. I'm not certain, but I don't think NYMUG ever paid for its booth, conventions frequently offer free booths to novelty exhibitors. I'm also fairly certain that sandwich boards worn by unauthorized organizations would not very welcome. But if i'm wrong, I know of a sign company in ny which might be cooperative in terms of production.
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Wonkothesane
Full Member


USA
506 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  08:38:43
That would be cool....we could show off 68ks running MpegDec, Linux, etc. I think a booth would cost about $1000 (the odds of getting a free booth are nil), so if we chip in, we could end up paying as little as $50-$100 each. I'd do it!

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TiMacLover
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USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  23:36:03
Money is not even a problem, I mean having Steve Jobs come up to us and seeing our 68ks working like a charm OMG!!!! I would even save up more money for it too, if we where serious Id look a lot more into if you guys want me to. This would be so cool and well worth what u guys think?

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Rexzilla
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132 Posts
Posted - 17 Feb 2002 :  23:53:00
hmm...it is worth sending an email off to MacWorld. We may even start a trend...in retro computing. Man ...the geek in me is getting excited...down boy...down...lol!

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TiMacLover
Senior Member


USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 18 Feb 2002 :  03:18:20
**Slips into "mac Geek" shirt**

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 18 Feb 2002 :  06:29:14
quote:

**Slips into "mac Geek" shirt**


gives me an idea, we need design concepts for a t-shirt. I kinda like the idea of bdu's (fatigues) done in a splinter comouflage pattern of images of 68000 era cpu's, discrete components, glue chips, the early lsi & vlsi asics like the iwm, and lots of DIP IC's. do some cool t-shirt and print designs, they might even sell online, could just be another bout of incoherence.

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Posted - 18 Feb 2002 :  17:10:27
quote:

gives me an idea, we need design concepts for a t-shirt. I kinda like the idea of bdu's (fatigues) done in a splinter comouflage

I'm not a big fan of camouflage T-shirts...reminds of of tacky high-school cross-country team shirts (you X-C runners know what I'm talking about - you've seen 'em)

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Posted - 18 Feb 2002 :  17:34:14
quote:

I'm not a big fan of camouflage T-shirts...reminds of of tacky high-school cross-country team shirts (you X-C runners know what I'm talking about - you've seen 'em)


neither am i, in the bdu description i was referring specifiacally to SUPER TACKY complete outfits for macworld booth crew a/o or mingling in the crowd like a bunch of techno-dorks in combat boots and web gear type outfits!

i agree that t-shirts should be a LITTLE classier than what i was describing (only half in jest, btw).

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Rexzilla
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132 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  00:14:15
Trash, you are giving me
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TiMacLover
Senior Member


USA
1282 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  03:27:02
I know was going go to Kinko's and buy some iron stickers with the 68k MLA army in black on them. I will when I get money.

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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  07:21:37
quote:

Trash, you are giving me
"DEVO" flashbacks...the horror...the horror!


thanks, rex, i needed that! now i'm off the dweeb-wear train of thought! robert palmer's videos were much better in the style department, simply irresistable.
http://www.mtv-china.com/avzone/photo/video/8addicted.jpg

jt


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cinemafia
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USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  11:57:49
I think desert or urban camo fatigues (to match the biege/platinum 68ks's) with black combat boots and a standard white t-shirt with the 68k MLA logo across the front would be a perfect uniform. It would be funny to have a Quadra hooked up to a Netwon playing mp3's, just like a newer mac to an iPod. That would start some conversations...

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Marchie
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USA
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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  15:51:38
When is MacWorld NewYork? Every January yes?

If we start planning and raising cash NOW, we could have a booth, and all sorts of stuff.

Me personally, I'll wear Arctic Camo. And if someone goes and pays for a sandwich board to wander around in, they should be shot (with a bolt from a SE's CRT of course). MAKE one! A little bit of paint and 2 boards, and a couple straps. If you pay more than $15 you're crazy.


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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  16:12:35
quote:

if someone goes and pays for a sandwich board to wander around in, they should be shot (with a bolt from a SE's CRT of course). MAKE one! A little bit of paint and 2 boards, and a couple straps. If you pay more than $15 you're crazy.


Hi, Marchie, I own a sign company, sandwich boards go for considerably more than $15, but i was implying that there would be no fees involved (a little too obliquely it seems, my mistake). Somebody gave me a 40" wide CAMMJET that we could use for four-color output for booth graphics, but the consumables are too expensive for me to donate, we could use my shop as a staging area for the effort, so nobody would have to worry about baggage checking placards or booth display materials.

i've done work in the javits center, keep in mind that even if the expo folks gave us free booth space as a not-for-profit novelty fill-in exhibit, javits is a union shop and setup fees for things like electrical hookups will eat us alive (tho it is doable). friends of mine do signage for about half the tradeshows there, so i can get the story on the ins and outs of the process in general, but they don't work with the gc who does macworld, so specifics on it are not readily available to me.

sponsorship from one of the used equipment resellers, accelerator companies, or even apple should probably be explored. big exhibitors frequently take smaller outfits "under their wing" to fill huge blocks of booth space that they are required to take to get a choice placement for their own setup.

just some thoughts,
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Captain Z
Mobile Ops Commander


USA
637 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  18:01:30
quote:

When is MacWorld NewYork? Every January yes?

MacWorld San Fransisco = January
Apple Expo Tokyo = March
MacWorld New York = July
Apple Expo Paris = September


Actually, I am quite fond of the urban or arctic camo look, prefering urban the most.

I know that if we do get to do this, I would be glad to help out in whatever way possible, being that I live about 40 miles from the Javits Center, and I can get the time off to go do it (I was there last year, and this year I have a better mode of transportation to get there.) Unfortunetly, I have very limited time and money to donate due to college costs for this year. But you can count me in for manpower!

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Wonkothesane
Full Member


USA
506 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  19:18:56
About those t-shirts: don't make them too stupid. If you ride NYC subways while looking too geeky, you will inevitably get mugged .
I'd be happy with something that looks similar to the Forums logo.

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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  19:40:37
quote:

I'd be happy with something that looks similar to the Forums logo.

I'll take that as a complement (I made the logo)

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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  19:54:54
quote:

quote:

I'd be happy with something that looks similar to the Forums logo.

I'll take that as a complement (I made the logo)



agreed, it would be great in black or white, front and back on a plain T same spec. which would go great with urbam cammies and black combat boots for the buz effect a unified theme might produce at macworld. even without a booth it might be great fun to be able to spot each other from halfway across the floor, and would probably get us some ink in the mags.

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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  20:43:19
hmm, a witty slogan would be in order too...

"Gee-four, schmee-four - I'd rather have a Quadra 840av"

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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  20:53:34
quote:

hmm, a witty slogan would be in order too...



"can't be beat .


. macs w/feets!"


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USA
1559 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  21:11:05
that would seem a bit crypitic for those who aren't "in the know" about 68ks..

edit: <grammar bandit mode> that would be "Macs with feet"...you wouldn't want those PPC-ers to think that 68k-ers are un-educated </grammar bandit mode>

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Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  21:42:26
quote:

that would seem a bit crypitic for those who aren't "in the know" about 68ks..

edit: <grammar bandit mode> that would be "Macs with feet"...you wouldn't want those PPC-ers to think that 68k-ers are un-educated </grammar bandit mode>



ino, was really a joke for in-forum crowd, but . . . .

. . . most anybody at macworld who's not a little bit "in the know" is gonna think we're retarded . . . . er . ? . ! . intellectually challenged? . . for giving a rat's rump about this stuff anyway. other than dumpster ballast pricing levels and that certain 68kCachet our toys don't have a whole lot goin' for them (for the macworld crowd anyway) except retro styling and feets-n-periscope crt's are the most obvious characteristics to play on that i can think of. on madison avenue *advertising agencies are long gone from that hood* a REALLY stupid pitch is still considered a potentially effective pitch. if we've got any budding animators in the ranks, a q605 dancin' around or cine's 840av kickin' the cowpie outta one of the new i-macs might be interesting *could get somebody burned at the stake, but we won't go into that right now*. gotta look at all the angles . . . . .

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 19 Feb 2002 :  23:19:35
Ok, this thread has inspired me.

I'm going to go get a camo t-shirt, and the IronOn transfers for InkJet printers and make myself a 68k MLA shirt tommorrow.

I'll post pictures.

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Posted - 20 Feb 2002 :  07:03:36
If there is going to be a legitimate effort, I would pay money into a group fund. But first, we need to start exploring options NOW: free space (unlikely?)/small space/sponsored by vendor...

Who want to be US coordinator (prefarably someone in NY)?

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Captain Z
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USA
637 Posts
Posted - 20 Feb 2002 :  10:05:14
Umm, I wouldn't say just one coordinator for the entire US.
We should probably have:

2 East Coast Coordinator (1 for New York and nearby states, one for Florida and other southern states)
1 Central Time Zone Coordinator (Based around Chicago)
2 West Coast Coordinators (1 for Los Angeles, 1 for San Francisco)
2 Austrailian Coordinators (You guys pick the city regions)

This way we have representitives in all sections that could organize stuff. Also, if we only had one rep in NY, then the long distance charges would get pretty steep after a while when calling LA or Chicago.


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alcoa
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Albania
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Posted - 20 Feb 2002 :  11:10:57
quote:

Umm, I wouldn't say just one coordinator for the entire US.
We should probably have:

2 East Coast Coordinator (1 for New York and nearby states, one for Florida and other southern states)
1 Central Time Zone Coordinator (Based around Chicago)
2 West Coast Coordinators (1 for Los Angeles, 1 for San Francisco)
2 Austrailian Coordinators (You guys pick the city regions)



potential volunteers might need estimates of mission parameters/specs. for consideration.

is the internet long distance phone thing still viable, and could it be used for conferencing within the ranks?

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Rexzilla
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Posted - 20 Feb 2002 :  18:40:07
Ok...it looks like we need someone with unlimited resources, who is known in the computer industry and who has involvement with Apple during the years to get this thing going. Now where did I put Bill Gates phone number? LOL!

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 22 Feb 2002 :  07:12:50
Why Australian coordinators? There's little chance any of us will get there, although I suppose I could staff a booth in the Perth Apple Update later this year...

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 22 Feb 2002 :  15:48:34
Let's start a petition for MacWorld Syndey!

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danamania
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Australia
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Posted - 22 Feb 2002 :  16:40:46
quote:

Let's start a petition for MacWorld Syndey!

Let's revive plans for Macworld Dubbo!!!

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AppleCore
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Canada
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Posted - 23 Feb 2002 :  10:38:45
Uhhh...
<skepticism>
How are people from Australia, Europe, various parts of the US and Canada going to come together for a computer expo? And I think there's only 3 or 4 forum members who live anywhere near an expo.
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Captain Z
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USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2002 :  12:26:56
In theory, that would be a great idea. Unfortunetly, in reality the cost of getting there will exceed our budgets signifigantly. (I would be able to go to MWNY, but not MWSF.)

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Albania
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Posted - 23 Feb 2002 :  15:09:59
quote:

In theory, that would be a great idea. Unfortunately, in reality the cost of getting there will exceed our budgets significantly. (I would be able to go to MWNY, but not MWSF.


while having a booth at macworld sounds cool, if the point of a macworld booth were a get-together, it wouldn't be worthwhile. *see footnote

1) it might be a good idea to create a new forum in which the threads would act as “ open discussion subcommittees” of more closely focused aspects of cooperative ventures., imho, it will help to get things done if we are actually going to accomplish anything

2) having a booth at macworld to spread the word in hopes of encouraging a 68k renaissance at macworld would be great, but without some kind of sponsorship it’s probably silly to consider it. brainstorming to come up with a list of potential sponsors is something that i would think should be done in its own thread.

3) a much more realistic approach for this kind of worldwide grass roots movement can be found at:
http://www.letterhead.com/
take a look at the history of this organization and how it developed without the "help" of any bureaucratic structure whatsoever. 68k bivouacs (whatever) modeled on letterhead meets might be a lot more worthwhile endeavor. check it out, the meets are phenomenal, i’ve been to quite a few and they really have fostered international participation.

* for an international get-together, i had suggested planning “field maneuvers” at the.burning man festival this year or, more realistically, next year. burning man is something i have been watching for years and i think it would be the kind of “once-in-a-lifetime-event” that might make international participation/travel expenses worthwhile. lodging/food/entertainment provisions might be kept to a very reasonable level, a mere fraction of such costs at macworld. just an idea, i haven’t researched it online, but it’s worth considering in its own right, imho. sharing links in a new thread might be a good start, if someone seconds the motion to open discussion by posting such a thread i’ll join right in.

those are my suggestions, i would like to see something really happen somewhere, somehow, what do you folks think?

jt2

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