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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts		 Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  09:18:24
Since we began reckoning time on JamBoree 24th, 1984, it's been debated, fought, and never decided...

is it the APPLE KEY or the COMMAND KEY???

Debate. Decide. Don't take each other's heads off.

~Marchie

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts		 Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  09:26:11
It was the COMMAND key before ADB cam out, I believe.

Anyway, Apple reckons it's both. So do I.

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spirit without
Starting Member


Canada
37 Posts		 Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  10:39:19
while techincaly it might be the command key, it don't say command on it no more so i usaly call it apple key.

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Tallgeese
Full Member


USA
523 Posts		 Posted - 10 Nov 2001 :  14:06:02

It was Open Apple long before the Mac came out. An it still is, dangit! Open Apple-Control-Reset. Not Command-Control-Reset.

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts		 Posted - 11 Nov 2001 :  04:11:44
It does say Command, but not in words. The 'cloverleaf' sign means command.

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USA
1559 Posts		 Posted - 11 Nov 2001 :  16:57:04
the keyboard is labeled with both the Apple and the command symbol...but i prefer "Apple".

"Command" makes me think of

1) NASA

2) DOS

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Tallgeese
Full Member


USA
523 Posts		 Posted - 11 Nov 2001 :  21:52:13

Now who here is so oldschool that they refer to the "Closed-Apple" key? And who here is so green they don't know what the heck I'm talking about?

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts		 Posted - 11 Nov 2001 :  21:58:27
I've always said command. It just seemed so right over the years because all the cmputer illiterate people i had to deal with thru elementary school and middle school said "apple key" and i was clearly superiour to them so...

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 12 Nov 2001 :  00:01:01
Apple key!

Thats what i've been calling it for almost as long as i've used Macs. Occasionally i may call it the Command key, but i prefer Apple key, because half the time non-Mac users don't know what i'm talking about because there's no key that says "Command"

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grumbleboy
Starting Member


USA
3 Posts		 Posted - 14 Nov 2001 :  20:22:27
I call it the Command key , but when my Windows-using wife sits down in front of my computer, I have to refer to it as the Apple key if I want to a explain a shortcut to her.

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grumbleboy
Starting Member


USA
3 Posts		 Posted - 14 Nov 2001 :  20:24:56
I love this filter---That was my first post (above)--I let out a belly laugh when I saw the name of a certain OS was filtered. Pure genius.

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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts		 Posted - 15 Nov 2001 :  10:25:23
I've always called it command, but my wife calls it open-apple.

Interestingly, though, it should really be the "Apple" key. Why, do you ask? Well, I use a Bondi-Blue iMac USB keyboard on my Win98 box at work and the key in question has the exact same function as the "Windoze" key on a PC keyboard. The parallel opposite of this would be an "Apple" key, of course. Thus, calling it command doesn't really make sense if you take a broad general view of the situation.

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts		 Posted - 15 Nov 2001 :  15:45:56
Cinemafia, you're right about the Windows key / Apple key comparison, except for one thing:

Look at the keyboard for a Mac Plus or older... it has the cloverleaf symbol, but not the Apple logo. Look also at any third-party keyboard; it's the same way (for obvious reasons). Thus, for historical and third-party consistency, IMHO it's the Command key.

Besides, that name makes more sense! You use the Command key to issue commands from the keyboard!

Just my views on the situation... rebuttals welcome.

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts		 Posted - 15 Nov 2001 :  15:51:11
[offtopic]

I love this filter...

I think we should all start calling it "'Dows," so that it can finally become the four-letter word that it deserves to be.
Just my modest proposal...

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Tallgeese
Full Member


USA
523 Posts		 Posted - 15 Nov 2001 :  16:07:50
quote:

Thus, for historical and third-party consistency, IMHO it's the Command key.

GORDOOM




Sorry, but if you look at Apple ][ keyboards, they have an open apple and closed apple.

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MacScuzzy
Moderator


USA
119 Posts		 Posted - 16 Nov 2001 :  15:30:31
You tell 'em Tallgeese I call it the 'Apple' partly because I have many Windows using friends, and also because I'm so used to 'Open Apple - Control - Reset'

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USA
1559 Posts		 Posted - 16 Nov 2001 :  18:31:17
quote:

You tell 'em Tallgeese I call it the 'Apple' partly because I have many Windows using friends, and also because I'm so used to 'Open Apple - Control - Reset'

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i used to use an Apple ][ at school back in the day and recall clearly the open apple / closed apple...yet when i got my first mac Performa 6200CD - i worked my way back from there ), i always refered to the restart command as "apple-control-reset"

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts		 Posted - 16 Nov 2001 :  21:03:03
quote:

...if you look at Apple ][ keyboards, they have an open apple and closed apple.

I know about that, having used Apple IIs for sometime before discovering the Mac, but it doesn't matter... the Apple II and the Macintosh are two completely different lineages. Therefore, would consistency between the two not be less important than consistency across the Mac line? If so, then the Mac Plus' lack of an Apple logo on the Command key becomes decisive.

GORDOOM
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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts		 Posted - 18 Nov 2001 :  03:22:59
This filter sure is fun!

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the Wrkncacnter
Starting Member


USA
3 Posts		 Posted - 18 Nov 2001 :  12:10:12
I always used to call it the "Apple squigily key" but now I call it command, its ways been command in all the docs that came with my computer or in any of the help topics.

you can't handle the tru7h

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taggat
Starting Member


USA
1 Posts		 Posted - 20 Nov 2001 :  13:41:38
I know it's command now (looking at all the manuals and such) but too many hours in front of an Apple ][e has made it forever "Open Apple" to me

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GORDOOM
Junior Member


Canada
208 Posts		 Posted - 20 Nov 2001 :  16:18:44
The decisive piece of evidence: the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines (1995) specifically refer to it (in the Glossary) as the Command key, even mentioning that "on some keyboards, the Command key has both the propeller symbol and the Apple symbol on it."

If something this sacred to all MacAddicts doesn't settle the debate, nothing can or will. (And maybe that's just the way it is...)

(Just for the record, the Aqua Human Interface Guidelines (2001) actually explicitly state under "Mac OS X Terminology Guidelines" that the term "Apple key" is not to be used, but that isn't as directly relevant to our purposes; all of the stuff we deal with is under the old Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines.)

GORDOOM
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