-168-pin DIMM DRAM (preferably 128mb sticks, but any will do for now)
-2 x 1 MB VRAM sticks (32-bit, 112-pin FPM, 70 nsec or faster)
-Processor Upgrade cards (g3. . .g4 would be a dream)
-PCI cards (vid, 10/100, USB)
-SCSI HD (2gb +)

Interested in getting this thing back up. Already have some VRAM on its way, but I want to go to 4mb. . .or just use a PCI vid card. Will need RAM and HD to determine further issues with this. If that does not work, I will need a new mobo.

. . .if one puts a PCI vid card, do the VRAM sticks become useless, or does the machine still use em?

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BTW, Have you thought about waiting patiently for another 7300, 7500, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500 class machine to fall into your lap? You seem to be pretty adept at finding machines. It might be a cheap way to get some of the parts you need to test the functioning of your 8500.

On the other hand, if you want it now, you want it now and I can surely understand that!

G4From128k

by the way, I did get the 8500 up and running! I captured some video, but it was slightly choppy with the 2mb of Vram, but it was still beautiful!!! probably gonna get something PCI to stand in for the video, BUT, I am still unclear as to the implications of this.
unknown, you say it is used for the vid capture and such, BUT does the vram become obsolete if there is a video card installed? Or is it cumulative, i.e I have a 16mb video card + 4mb VRAM, do I then have 20mb vram?

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However.... this is my theory..... if you plug in a 16MB PCI card with monitor, have no monitor on the internal grafix, then that would leave ALL the 4MB VRAM available for video capture (as opposed to using the 4MB for capture I/O and running a monitor)

??? well that's my theory - can anyone verify this?

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A PCI grafix card will allow you to connect a 2nd monitor. It doesn't 'add' VRAM to the motherboard nor does it 'obsolete' onboard VRAM.

However.... this is my theory..... if you plug in a 16MB PCI card with monitor, have no monitor on the internal grafix, then that would leave ALL the 4MB VRAM available for video capture (as opposed to using the 4MB for capture I/O and running a monitor)

??? well that's my theory - can anyone verify this?

I think it just switches to tv output mode

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Edited by - flash on 22 Oct 2003 22:50:05

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I'm inclined to think that the 8500's VRAM is only used for output amd not ever used for video capture. I base this on the fact that the Technical Information booklet that came with the 8500 says that the 2 MB VRAM configuration will support 1152 x 870 with Thousands of colors. That display format would use 1.91 MB of the 2 MB VRAM capacity. Yet there is no asterisk suggesting that you can't do video capture while the VRAM is monopolized by the display.

I could be wrong, however.

BTW, you might find http://www36.pair.com/~macula/mac8500-l/optimizing_video.html useful for tips on getting the best video capture performance.

G4From128k

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