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Enron Fever
Starting Member
USA
8 Posts |
 Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 18:10:46
i found an SE/30 that was unloved, so i took it home and took it apart to see if there were any salvagable parts. it has an SE motherboard. everything else is SE/30, but the motherboard is definatly not. it has a 68000P8 chip, as well as a chip made by "VSLI" that w/o closer inspection looks like the main chip. very wierd. but it works anyways :D |
maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 18:40:17
Very nice...even though the SE/30 board is gone.Btw, every Mac that i've opened has VLSI chips in it...dunno what for. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
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MacTO
New Member
Canada
60 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 19:01:51
The VLSI chips are custom chips. In general, it means Very Large Scale Integration and refers to the number of transistors on the chip. In this case, I think VLSI is also the company name.Sorry to hear that you got an SE. The same thing happened to me. I exchanged it with the dealer -- even though it was sold as-is. They refused at first, but I claimed that it was sold under false pretense and I would complain to the BBB. Clearly you shouldn't do this if your know the dealer is honest. I had done it in that case because I specifically wanted the SE/30 mainboard to upgrade an SE. (Everything else could have been missing and I wouldn't have cared, because they didn't make a claim that it was intact nor functional. They simply claimed that it was an SE/30, which it wasn't.) BTW - it wasn't the mainboard that tipped me off, it was the signatures inside of the case! Edited by - MacTO on 14 Oct 2003 19:04:47 |
Enron Fever
Starting Member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 19:57:52
well just after posting that i found another unloved SE/30 that was an actual SE/30. man oh man do these things have alot of RAM slots! 9 of em! but actually one says ROM so i guess the way you upgraded the ROM was via new ROM stick?
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 20:00:56
The ROM slot was there so that later on if Apple released a ROM update, you could put the update into that slot. And yes, SE/30s do have a good number of RAM slots.  Just don't tell Steve Jobs...he might issue a recall. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
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68kMLA
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tmtomh
Junior Member
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 20:58:37
SE/30s have ROM SIMMs. So the ROM slot should be filled with a SIMM. If it isn't, the machine shouldn't work.No upgrade ROMs were ever made. But if you can find a rare IIsi or IIfx ROM SIMM, you can put it in the SE/30 and thereby make the SE/30 32-bit clean in hardware, which allows it to address more RAM and is generally hackalicious. Matt No rank Current king of my 68k realm:
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2003 : 21:10:13
And will allow it to run System 7.6 and possibly A/UX."**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
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Enron Fever
Starting Member
USA
8 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2003 : 14:46:33
i'm going to sound like a total noob here, but what is A/UX? i keep seeing posts about it. sorry for this stupid question.
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2003 : 15:49:57
http://www.applefritter.com/ui/aux/index.html
"**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
68kMLA
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oldmacman
Full Member
USA
713 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2003 : 20:00:34
quote:
And will allow it to run System 7.6 and possibly A/UX
A/UX doesn't care about the ROM - it should run just fine on a "dirty" Mac. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2003 : 20:33:49
Does the SE/30 have an MMU? Its been a while since i've checked out the SE/30 specs..."**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms
USA
4679 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2003 : 06:17:09
As I recall, all 030's had the MMU, it's the FPU ya've got to look out for though.MacTO, was there any lable that it was a SE/30, other than on the mac? Enron Fever: no question, especially when you learn from it, is a stupid question. Official 68k videographer
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2003 : 06:17:56
You know what they say Cory, the only stupid question is the question not asked. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
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