My 260 lb body barely fits in the crawlspace; after squeezing through 50 feet of that hell, I found 5 leaks that were dripping profusely. After 12 hours in that tiny crawlspace, 70 ft of PVC pipe, 3 compression fittings, 100 ft of pipe insulation, and breathing toxic pipe dope fumes that made me disoriented, everything is finally back to normal.

Oh, and my 12" AlBook finally shipped friday

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I can relate. Our pipes in this house are almost all galvanized. You don't need corrosive water to eat that stuff, any will do. I'd replace them, but we're selling and I'm hoping for the best.

Then there was the well that went out early this spring. At first it only had a clogged screen, but that was just the beginning. It was a 2" well. If you could imagine working with just 2" all the way down. After you get the pump off, there's all that drop pipe which has the ejector and foot valve on the end which is going to rub, another check valve below that which is going to rub, and then you can pull up the screen which is probably going to rub. Well, that was just too much for the rusty old casing. On top of that, the screen was stainless and they could've just cleaned it by pouring muriatic acid down the well. Who knew?

out here, we have to haul our water to dual 2500 gallon water tanks, and we have a pumphouse (all new stuff to me) and a septic system (nothing new there...)

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1) power
2) network
3) just about any other cable

other than that, most of the pipes outside of our house are PVC... not sure about the ones inside this house though

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Yep, "Old Houses" are a lot of fun.

"One slip and down the hole we fall"

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because sulfate hydroxycut or whatever you called it could probably eat through just about anything (XBOX vs. sulfide hydrolysis anyone?)

maybe he liberated it from them, and now has watered it?

I remember though, when he got the XBOX and PS2 and they were all borkified what with the glayvens and the water...

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I thought that it was drunken college students that he lost his 840 to?

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I added so many new breakers to seperate the rooms, I had to add another box!

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Well they probably weren't running server farms (Apple Orchards™)

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Nope. The motherboard was corroded from the water and crap.

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Hmm. An experiment with water cooling?

Oh and MEK is very dangerous, go read the msds sheets

and on the subject of electrical crap, my parents are having a new 200 amp breaker box installed, and I have PAF approved dibs on 2 spaces for a 60 amp breaker box in the garage for my air compressor, welder, and server/seti farm

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The solvents that join PVC pipe (and the pipe itself) leach of chemicals that enter the water.

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Only for a while. They'll wash out eventually.

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If you need a water tand get a HDPE one(high density poly ethylene)last forever.

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They make pressure tanks out of HDPE? Or is it a storage tank you're talking about?

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lol, a 2" well?!

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Yep.

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ours is like 12-14", but only 35 feet deep. A small child could easily fall in there and get stuck.

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That's awful big. I wonder how much that sucker was to drill. Good luck getting a replacement screen.

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And yeah, submersible pumps can really be a pain, that's why we just went with a 3/4hp Goulds jet pump.

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Good choice. The more plastic the better.

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The foot valve rusted off a long time ago, so I intalled an inline check by the pump (making it a little fun to prime)

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That's interesting. Is that a shallow well pump? If the water level drops below 25 feet it won't pump, though, but you probably knew that already.

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The quick connect in the well is corroded together

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You mean the pitless adapter? Is it the kind where you put a like 5' long T-bar tool down the well and unscrew a bolt to release it or is it something else? You know this well stuff is like Macs. It fascinates me to no end.

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And yeah, a HDPE pressure bladder tank? Never seen one. Our 20 gallon steel WellXtrol works great, even though it is probably being eaten alive.

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the most fun thing about supplying water.

I was sort of lucky when I live(d) (still live there on and off) in canada. We bought a summer cabin, and added on, and added on, and added on, till it could not be added onto any more. now its just an odd place. When we moved in there, we had to take a farm jack and lift the sinking corner of the house, and put blocks there so it would not sink further.

as for the piping, I have spent many a fun time in the crawlspace installing plumbing in that place when we built the bathroom upstairs. sweated many a mile of copper, and got stoned off of many a fume of ABS cement.

for our well, we have one somewhere between 36" and 48" wide, and thirtyfive feet deep. it runs dry in the summer, so we'd have to fill up a septic tank on the back of a pickup, and siphon the sucker into the well..

we use sump pumps because they are so much less of a hassle than the outside the well pumps. we do not have to worry about screens, so life is wonderful.

wouldnt pouring muriatic acid down the well make it undrinkable for a period of time, and eat the rest of the pump?

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we have our water brought to us for water-haul.

'jets, you should get a basic solution, and pour it into your very acidic water. (or was your water a base?)

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a nice lightweight plastic water tank would hold more water, and be less heavy for your vehicle to pull, if you actually haul your own water. We have ours brought to us.

It's not something I'd personally do, but then again I'm used to always having city or town water anyways.

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for our well, we have one somewhere between 36" and 48"

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What is it with you people and the 48" wells? I feel totally inadequate now as a male.

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we do not have to worry about screens, so life is wonderful.

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Your well has to have a screen. Otherwise, it would try to suck up sand, dirt and gravel, or whatever's down there. If the water is soft, then you don't have to worry about the screen. It's the minerals that clog it up.

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wouldnt pouring muriatic acid down the well make it undrinkable for a period of time, and eat the rest of the pump?

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Yes, unless you're used to drinking stomach acid, becuase hydrochloric (muriatic) acid is the same thing. As for the rest of the plumbing, as long as the acid is pumped out fast, it won't hurt it. Also, the minerals in the well water and in the screen neutralize most of it anyway. Just be sure you have a stainless steel screen before you try this trick, because if it's not it needs to be replaced and the acid will eat it and make it more likely that the whole screen won't come up and some of it will be left down there.

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The last Goulds pump we had lasted 20 years, when the motor finally failed (when I was in the shower, of course...),it was just bad bearings. I could have just pressed new ones on, but I figured 20 years was pretty good for a pump

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lol. That's when the water likes to go off - When you're in the shower. When I lived in a trailer park, they would always shut off the water at least once a week because of all the plumbing problems. I can think of at least 2 times that I was in the shower when it went off.

Have you ever opened up one of those iron pumps? They rust out like no tomorrow. I don't know if powder coating would solve this, but I'm guessing not because 1) Some water will leak through microscopic fissures in the powder coating and 2) They can't powder coat every single surface that comes into contact with the water. I still think plastic is the way to go.

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Have you ever opened up one of those iron pumps?

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The old well had a Flint & Walling pump that was cast iron, but that one seemed to always be noisy. Especially after the well wasn't working right. It could've been cavitation, though, but I don't know. Also, rain water was dripping on it from the hole in the "roof" of the "well house".

The quicksand thing is funny though, a local farmer just sold a couple 3 acre lots a few miles from here...without having a soil survey done on them. The basement contractors started to dig, and the hole kept filling back in

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Yes I have, it was quite rusty, but it lasted 20 years. It will definitely take a while to rust through 3/8-1/2" of cast iron. The iron pumps are not near as noisy as the plastic ones, either. Our old pump was still quieter than my uncle's new plastic one, even with the worn ball bearings squealing away. I don't know if you are familiar with Goulds pumps, they are great quality, but also darn expensive. I think ours was like $700 or so.

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