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My Athlon 700 literally crashed once every two hours, and had a BSOD every other shutdown (if I made it that far) with Win98...

WinME has been much nicer to use on it.

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I'd say I've had WinME for at least a year
and it was sometimes installed for months at a time...

ran FANTASTICALLY...

Not to mention the libraries are buggy, see, it was the first OS Microsoft moved away from Dos. No longer did folks have a option to start to dos.

Anyways, do a google search and you see so many ME support questions.

Even an attempted clean reinstall of the OS would not get the machine running again. I had to totally reformat the drive and reinstall the crapware OS from scratch.

Windows: its not just a bad idea, its the law.

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I guess that's a great example of how bad 98 is though, even 95 ran better on that Athlon than 98 did

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Drivers for WHAT?!?!?!?!?! the PROJECTOR or something??? /me faints...

some projectors do have drivers IIRC...

Maybe I could use the prospect ov windoze based development as a sort ov "intelligence test" to winnow out possible employment opportunities, and support the rest!

Other than that, I used to use my WinME PC for just about everything...

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Crappy Hardware. If you use good quality hardware Windows systems can be very stable. We have built systems that have been running in a concrete plant for the last 5 years and have never missed a beat.

This is Apple biggest advantage over the Wintel world. They control the entire process so they can insure that only the highest quality parts go into a system. This is the main reason for the high cost of Apple's systems.

so yeah, but it's not just hardware, it's the setup, it's the people who use it, maintain it and who regularly have contact with it...

and on the topic of Microsoft's Consumer (type) OSs... Win 95-ME... they WERE NOT meant for multiple people were they? I'm just CERTAIN that if most PCs I've seen, had only one person using them, they'd be better off...

which is why I think that the concept of "family PC" is old, outdated, and somewhat stupid...

Let's take a look at Mattell here, anyone remember the hotwheels and barbie PCs? (now resold as the burbie PC IIRC) they were a 333MHz Celeron with 32, 54, 128 or 160/256MB of RAM, a decent lil' graphics controller, and like a 6/8/10 GB hard drive.

They were styled into a compact, durable case that appealed to youngsters, and they were not really meant for the parents to use... THIS is the kind of thing that families need, a computer for the kids (or one for each kid) and a computer for the parents, and maybe a server with a printer/scanner/iNetconnection/web/eMail etc etc (this is almost where the Intrikit Weaver concept comes from (it is most certainly where I got the idea for iServe)

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Windows systems aren't that good, (usually) when you know when to expect a crash, sometimes youy'll see a pattern (like with my 98box ) but other than that... (unless you've been feeding your wintel systems MetaMucil

so yeah, but it's not just hardware, it's the setup, it's the people who use it, maintain it and who regularly have contact with it...

and on the topic of Microsoft's Consumer (type) OSs... Win 95-ME... they WERE NOT meant for multiple people were they? I'm just CERTAIN that if most PCs I've seen, had only one person using them, they'd be better off...

which is why I think that the concept of "family PC" is old, outdated, and somewhat stupid...

Let's take a look at Mattell here, anyone remember the hotwheels and barbie PCs? (now resold as the burbie PC IIRC) they were a 333MHz Celeron with 32, 54, 128 or 160/256MB of RAM, a decent lil' graphics controller, and like a 6/8/10 GB hard drive.

They were styled into a compact, durable case that appealed to youngsters, and they were not really meant for the parents to use... THIS is the kind of thing that families need, a computer for the kids (or one for each kid) and a computer for the parents, and maybe a server with a printer/scanner/iNetconnection/web/eMail etc etc (this is almost where the Intrikit Weaver concept comes from (it is most certainly where I got the idea for iServe)

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that way, everyone in the family has a workstation, and they all have part of (however much room is on the G4's HDD)

but for an average family [four person], I think two computers would work great…
I mean with OS X and everything, the only problem is managing everyone's time, You don't have to worry about running out of space since you've got a CD Burner and CDs are practically free [well they ARE free some times…]anyway, but I don't really see the reason to get a whole server setup just for a family… I mean, you could just go out and get a Firewire drive to share…

I've in the past worked on a concept of the "iServe", it's somewhat like an iBook, but closer in functionality to an Xserve, has snotloads of storage, and is great for all of those things that home people do, like sharing music (between all their home computers), web sharing, router, print server and such...

Home "thin" clients and servers *could* be worth it if made cheap enough too.

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Fast user switching is exactly the way it is in WinXP...

the reason I say that families could benefit from having multiple computers attached to a server, is because in one family I know of, they basically have three people who want to use the computer, two of which share a very similar schedule, the ony way of combatting their scheduling problems, is by using the computer in one hour blocks (the family computer, that is...)

so when they got the internet in their rooms, they needed to use the family computer for less and less, only one of them needs to use it all the timen ow, and that's for the games that wont' run on his own machine... The dad's schedule is a bit different, so he uses the computer when noone else is...

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