It's the MLAgazine, and there is some controversy related to it lately.

I've been considering (somewhat in private) using eBay as a way to sell advertising in the MLAgazine. This has brought several different responses though. I'll outline these responses here.

1) Several people, think that this is a great idea, they believe that it'll bring some much needed funding to projects like (getting broadband) and the Intrikit Weaver.

2) Some People believe that using eBay as a method of selling advertising space is a very bad idea, because of all the weirdos trolling eBay, who might decide to use the MLAgazine as a way to advertise their latest p0rn website.

3) Some people have totally thrashed the idea of MLAgazine having advertising at all, this is aparently because readership couldn't ever possibly be high enough to convince someone to advertise in it.

4) Other people who thrash the idea of advertisng in MLAzine, believe that a magazine that I'm producing on my own shouldn't have ads, but should be better dedicated to good content

5) Even different people, could believe that I am using this as a way to benefit myself personally.

I am especially interested in people's reaction to #5, because it might seem that I am doing this for personal benefit.
To anyone who might think that, I'll note that you probably haven't wrote an article for MLAgazine, but you'll probably want to download and read a copy of MLAgazine when it does come out. If you've *ACTUALLY* written an article for the MLAgazine, and have submitted it to me, I will be more receptive of your feelings, because they are valid, those who have submitted to me, basically know that my intentions are good.

The money, if I can sell ad space, will probably go to something like getting broadband internet around here (for the IW project, so I can host downloads for MLAgazine myself) and, of course, I've probably offered hosting to mostly everyone when and if I can get the IW up and running.

I would like to remind you all, that this is NOT a finalized decision, I am still floating this idea in my head, and am floating the entire idea of advertising at all in my head...

I have made a few spaces where advertising will be able to go, obviously inside covers, the rear cover and a few other spaces that I can't fill, but I still haven't even created a "media kit" for distribution to possible advertisers.

It's always hard to drum up money for online projects, and certianly, no online project is exempt from this.

Just make a first issue and place fake ads or Apple ads for older products years ago then release it, let us see it, then maybe we see.

I second that motion.

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Anything you guys could do, if you think this' the best thing to do, would be very helpful...

Or, you can make your own by putting some text in with a picture of an old mac that's in your magazine.

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I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.

Sadly, not all MLAers are like us, students with much free time in which to publish a magazine.

Anything you can write, pictures you can take, of anything, will help, what macs do you have?

the first issue is Quadras, and I need quadra stuff, 840av has been done, but I hear that you have a 950 and a 610.

I dont' have anyone doing anything on a 610 as far as I know, but even so you'rs is overclocking, which makes it applicable to any quadra, and more interesting than just a stock 610, and your 950 is ubered also,

I like screenshots, profiles of yourself, and just about anything.

If you want to write an article, and lay out the pages yourself, you can do so in QuarkXPress on your Quadra!!!

Nick

I didn't even know you were doing an article LOL, Cool though!
Maybe this'll come together faster than we thought.
ML5's doing a Q700+A/UX article, so maybe he can take piccies of his setup, but if anyone else has a Q700 and take posed pictures of it with a monitor and keyboard/mouse, preferrably in an open space, and "dressed up"

BTW, any photos at all will look better this way, other than the MLAers' lifestyle/home ones... which can be just as messy as it usually is, but pictures of computers and specific things... we should be able to tell what we're looking at

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I have a problem with vintage electronics. . .I am working on it.

I have it "so far" right here.

http://68k.dyndns.org/mla/mlagazine2.1.pdf

is the URL.

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geekwurks. . .I can take shots of c610 stuff, whattaya need?

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I'm trying to put AUX on the 950 but running into a brick wall. I'll post about it and maybe you guys can help then I can post the "Idiots Guide To Installing AUX On A Quadra 950".

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I could use a shot of it hooked up and running, as well as a hi-res piccie of it open with & w/out CD-ROM from the top down for a cooling diagram. (To illustrate some ways to improve cooling)

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Edited by - wisof on 08 Sep 2003 14:52:35

I have this weekend free and open onmy "calandar" it'll be my " metime" for some MLAgazine work, and of course, the venerable IW project.

I'm against advertising in MacAddict, but I'm not the editor so I can't control it...

that's what my escuse is going to be. I'll put together a "media kit" dealie, and maybe post an eBay auction somewhere over the weekend?

If you had a large big site that had a good audience like say, lowendmac.com where literally thousands visit each day, perhaps it might be plausable.

Don't get me wrong, I think the MLAgazine is a good idea cory, but I truly do believe that the first issue is going to be iether ad free or done all by yourself with the exception of articles written by others. If I had more time to actually write up some articles I would, but at the moment, I am behind on work projects.

So, all in all cory, if people don't start coming through with articles, it might be time to go online to google, look up the keywords for the items you want in the articles, read up what other people have written and comment and do a journal about that, citing good points, bad points, tips tricks in an editorial way. I have had to start some things this way cory, I sure wanted help but I realized really quick nobody was going to take me seriously untill I decided to snap to it bend my back and get the work done and prove to people I was serious by showing them something.

Sadly people often don't believe or want to unless you shove it in thier face. So, you might have to compile the whole "in your face promo" yourself to sorta give people that little shock to get thier heart going again.

the eBay auction will tell basically the coverage of the MLAgazine. Smaller dealers, and people like ShreveSystems, other forums and schtuff might like advertising in MLAgazine.

I have some nice spots in some various locations, $5-10 sound good?

It looks very... amateurish, and thats not a slam of you and all the effort you've put into it, i just think it needs loads of design work.

btw, nice performa 578 story i love my 578 too

Nick

I know that it should happen on the very front cover, which would be the picture of the (it's an 8100 actually) and the "japanese man" thing under Tidbits.

If anyone can provide me with an "artistic rendering" of the 840av, similar to the way Dana's 605 (top of the cover) is... I'd be absolutely happy, and would put it in straightaway.

GeekWurkz - $30 for halfpage, $45 for full?

I have changed around a few articles (in the past), and tried to break the monotony with some pictures, and some other fonts (like the funny looking "Performa and LC" under ML5's story, and the hand-drawn 578... but I am only 15, and if any one part of the MLAgazine's gotten most of my attention, it's the "how would you design the next mac" article... and that isn't the prettiest thing in the 'zine...

Helvetica, IIRC, is the font that I used for the big "MLAgazine" on the cover?... It's also the default font, and it's strangely attractive... I'll see about changing some of the other stuff, and gaining some consistency.

Nick

and if you can supply a quadra-related article that's not already being done... then that'd be great!....

also, I have Christophillis down for a "Fake-AppleAd" somewhere in the 'zine, probably front cover.

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