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sheygoth
Starting Member
28 Posts |
 Posted - 24 Aug 2003 : 08:20:28
Can anyone say if Cyberdog - Apple's now-abandoned Internet suite - is worth getting into? Is it better on 68k machines than the other available choices? I'm very interested. |
foetoid
Full Member
USA
554 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2003 : 11:26:46
The Cyberdog software should work just fine. You have to connect to a news server. At least that's all I used it for about 2 or 3 years ago on my LC 580. That's about all I can say about it.________________
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FireWire is fast
General, 4 star
USA
1559 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2003 : 19:17:47
I don't know exactly what else Cyberdog does, but it absolutely sucks at web browsing. It botches pages like no other.--------------------
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Hemant Kamat
Starting Member
India
22 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2003 : 23:44:30
It just happens to be the FASTEST browser on a 68k, although it does not support the newer features like cascading style sheets, etc. (in fact, it's HTML 3.0 compliant; HTML 4.0 features not supported). If you're planning to do simple stuff like FTP & email and browsing on sites low on system requirements, there's no reason to go for it!
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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms
USA
4679 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2003 : 21:53:27
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The Balance Of Judgement
Senior Member
Ivory Coast
1006 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2003 : 02:43:24
I think it's time that Apple should release something like CyberDog into GPL, it's a base model that could be expanded and developed further.I see no merit in it being locked away in a closet. It's an example of things technology companies do, because they focus on the next big thing and the forget that some things they carry, like legacy items, do have value, and could be integrated into a new system. It's like wasting paper and food. It's something you usually don't do.
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MacTO
New Member
Canada
60 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2003 : 18:54:49
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I think it's time that Apple should release something like CyberDog into GPL, it's a base model that could be expanded and developed further.
There is a lot of great stuff which Apple should open the source to, but it I wouldn't bother with CyberDog. CyberDog requires OpenDoc, and OpenDoc is dead. If anybody was to continue developing it, they would be forever locked into System 7.x to Mac OS 9.x computers. What is really needed is a 68k browser which can gracefully reject HTML which is too complex to render on older processors.
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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms
USA
4679 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 10:41:27
Apple has an open source browser, it's called safari on a more serious note though, I would have to say that it would be ubercool if apple could release moer of it's stuff to open source (can any one say open source 7.5?) I would most like to see HyperCard, system 7.x, and a web browser opensourced... IMHO, it's not that the older computers can't render newer pages, it's that noone's tried to make them... I bet that a higher end Quadra could easily render just about anything, but it's the flash, shockwave and the other silly thigns that make them choke. Official 68k videographer
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MacTO
New Member
Canada
60 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 13:25:38
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I would most like to see HyperCard, system 7.x, and a web browser opensourced
Agreed on the open source bit, but I would be happy to see System 7.1 released as binaries. quote:
it's the flash, shockwave and the other silly thigns that make them choke.
Maybe, but a 68k browser without those plugins is still pretty slow. My running theory is it's all those tables and chopped up images they use for formatting that the browser has trouble untangling. Even a text mode browser, like links (links.browser.org) is pretty slow on
an old Unix box (like a 486). But you're right about one thing: a programmer which tried to make it run on a Quadra would go a long way.
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 15:49:16
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Agreed on the open source bit, but I would be happy to see System 7.1 released as binaries.
They can't, because they use third party code in it. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
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MacTO
New Member
Canada
60 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 17:04:00
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They can't, because they use third party code in it.
I can see 7.1 Pro including third party code, but what about the stripped version of 7.1 which shipped with many Macs? It doesn't look much different from 7.5.5, without many, meany features.
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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder
Australia
5830 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 17:50:24
I'm not sure either, but apparently it did ship with some third party code."**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
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catsdorule
Senior Member
Canada
1627 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2003 : 08:02:22
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Apple has an open source browser, it's called safari
Actually, that isn't the case, its just the renderer that is OSS, safari is as open source as OW4.5.quote:
on a more serious note though, I would have to say that it would be ubercool if apple could release moer of it's stuff to open source (can any one say open source 7.5?)
I would higly doubt they will ever OS [i]any verstions of their software, it just isn't feasible, I would rather that they make it easier to boot linux, however I doubt that will happen also.
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I would most like to see HyperCard, system 7.x, and a web browser opensourced...IMHO, it's not that the older computers can't render newer pages, it's that noone's tried to make them...
iCab is the only browser for the 68k that has a chance, and even then it sucks with CSS.quote:
I bet that a higher end Quadra could easily render just about anything, but it's the flash, shockwave and the other silly thigns that make them choke.
Indeed, and with the ever increasing move to flash, those who browse on 68ks (and early ppcs) will soon be left in the dust.Well... We like to call it ÜberGather2k6/7 |
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