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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
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Posted - 18 Aug 2003 :  23:36:53
Well, I used the patch at www.os9forever.com to install all the way up to 9.2.2 on my 8600. The features 9.2 brings to the tables are very nice. (MultiUser, CD Authoring)

However it seems my system keeps hanging when it loads the Apple CD Driver. After it boots the Cursor will wait in an endless "Busy" state forever. You could leave it sitting for days and it will still be busy. (No I did not try it)

I managed to disable the drivers and install FWB's CD ROM Toolkit, but after a bit it did it again.

So, I'm thinking this is a bug with Apple's CD Sub-Sytem or something along that line. Or maybe this drive isn't supported that great.

Any takes on this? I am iether considering grabbing another cheap used CD and seeing if it does the same thing (narrow it down to drive or software) or maybe trying another set of CD Drivers. (CD ROM SpeedTools)

Flash
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Australia
637 Posts
Posted - 18 Aug 2003 :  23:48:23
What does 9.2.2 do for your 8600 that 9.1 doesn't?

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 18 Aug 2003 :  23:52:49
Slow it down and crash more. But yeah, i agree with Flash...9.1 would be a much better OS for your 8600. I ran 9.2.2 for a few months on my iMac before i got X, and i found it to be slower, and more unstable than 9.1.

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Derekcat
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USA
342 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  00:15:48
BoJ… Multi user was an OS 9.0 feature
and CD authoring would be fixed by toast… [did toast have a CD driver?]

Humm… www.os9forever.com lists the most common reasons for wanting 9.2.x as:
the four most important reasons for installing 9.2.x are:

1. Compatibility with ATI's latest drivers. ATI dropped support for OpenGL versions lower than 1.2.2. (9.1 has 1.2.1). See these notes on ATI's drivers for some more hints.

2. You can't run DVD Studio Pro 1.5 or 1.2.1 without 9.2.2. See my Pro page for more info.

3. You can't run Final Cut Pro 3 without 9.2.2. See my Pro page for more info.

4. Full compatibility with first and second generation iPods.

so… if you don't need any of those then dump 9.2…


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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  01:07:21
Studio MX requires 9.2, at least unless I have that it complains.

I'll probably end up replacing the drive. I somehow think this drive is not an Apple branded drive, since it refuses to boot from a factory CD i obtained.

But no worries, I'm sure it will work like a charm when done.

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Unknown_K
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USA
602 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  01:23:01
Use the last version of the software that runs reliable and fast on your machine. No point in running the latest and greatest on a machine that chokes on it.. not very productive.

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Derekcat
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USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  02:26:46
that's kinda weird…

usually factory CDs I have boot on non-Apple CD drives, though they still don't use them once the OS is installed…

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  20:51:50
yeah, you should run 9.1, or even better IMHO, 9.0

there's some things that 9.x and 8.x lag on... like loading a volume that you have set to "mount on boot" where the volume's gone away... (takes FOREVER )

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
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Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  21:26:51
Any version of 9 except 9.2 crashes all the time for me. I try to run AIM and it crashes. Heck, I tried opening the readme file on the Mac OS 9 CD and TeachText crashed forcing me to reboot.

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  02:18:55
BoJ, why are you using TeachText? TeachText got phased out and replaced with SimpleText ages ago!

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Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  06:48:04
Last time I checked, NetBSD and Yellow Dog Linux ran well on an 8600.

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Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  11:12:08
1) check the RAM one stick at a time, some of it might be bad...
2) make sure the HDD is mounted properly and all in place, that may be what caused the RAM to go bad..
3) read topic "eBay Aucion gone awry"
4) use Mac OS X 10.1 or 10.2 (with G3/4 upgrade)

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Ivory Coast
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Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  12:56:41
I don't know about the TeachText thing. I was reading the readme for Apple's CD Player on the OS 9 CD and it launched it somehow, as I didn't even know it was installed.

When it crashed it said TeachText.

It's stable now, a la 'No CD-ROM".

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cory5412
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Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  18:40:57
use the drivers that came with OS9?

is it a third party drive?

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