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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  22:57:13
Well... I'm working on the new website design for my company. Is there anything you think I should change so far? Just so you know, it suffers from SLoCS (Severe Lack of Content Syndrome) at the moment.

http://www.jsellnau.us/geekwurkz/gscn/home.shtml

Thanks,
Nick

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alphamatrix
New Member


USA
60 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  23:04:44
The formatting is a little insane(not matching up) in Safari and IE in OS X, this could be due to the lack of content, not sure. It should look pretty nice once its finished tho.


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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  23:12:03
Hrmmm... could I see a screenshot? I can only test on a PeeCee. It works using Mozilla and IE 5 for me. I designed it for at least an 800x600 screen.

Nick

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alphamatrix
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USA
60 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  23:16:45
I'm set at 1024x768
http://homepage.mac.com/alphamatrix/site.jpg

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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  23:45:33
Hrmmm... I don't know why it's spitting out a dark grey background... it should be white & light grey. That image is also missing a load of stuff I put on there. Does anyone know of a good HTML 4.0 validator?

Nick

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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  23:49:01
This is what I get when I view the site in mozilla.
http://www.jsellnau.us/geekwurkz/site.png

nick

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alphamatrix
New Member


USA
60 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  00:05:46
Well, it looks quite nice.

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  00:15:23
Other than SLoCS and the weird safari output it looks good!

I'd just say that you need to remedy SLoCS

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  01:09:14
Using Mozilla FireBird I get the grey background and the tables are all messed up and the main content section is lowered with all the menus.

But that might just look that way because of the grey. Check your table background colors, if it's not explicit, it could be why and if you have a CSS file, check to make sure tags are eneded and you don't have a rogue CSS definition for any backgrounds.

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  03:58:15
The layout is fine, but the white text on a light grey background is very hard to read. I would avoid white and light-colored text at all costs (except in an image where you have total control). You never know when someone has their browser set to override background colors and display everything on a white or grey background.

As a minor issue, I prefer layouts that resize the main content panel to suit the width of my browser window. I also prefer a minimum usable window width fo 640 pixels, but 800 is OK. Does any browser have a feature that can automatically figure out the "best" screen width? Manually widening/narrowing windows for every website is a pain.

BTW, I really like the name, but wonder what a cat does with cheese.

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~tl
Junior Member


United Kingdom
312 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  09:42:14
[quote]Does anyone know of a good HTML 4.0 validator?[quote]
the official W3C one ... http://validator.w3.org/ (HTML/XHTML) and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ (CSS) ... other than that, the one built in to BBedit is pretty good

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Gothikon
Full Member


Australia
537 Posts
Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  17:50:23
Somehow I don't think that HTML is going to validate!!

What are you using to design the site. According to Safari you have about 5 pages of seperate HTML stuffed in to one file. If you are using server side includes they only need to contain fragments of HTML not whole pages IIRC (don't use them myself) which means only what would appear between the body tags. Not sure how much you know about HTML but I would suggest you dump the .css in to a separate file and just link to it from the other pages. If you're using Dreamweaver you can tell it to use an external stylesheet (same thing) dunno what frontpage would let you do.

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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 28 Jul 2003 :  20:57:50
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Somehow I don't think that HTML is going to validate!!

What are you using to design the site. According to Safari you have about 5 pages of seperate HTML stuffed in to one file. If you are using server side includes they only need to contain fragments of HTML not whole pages IIRC (don't use them myself) which means only what would appear between the body tags. Not sure how much you know about HTML but I would suggest you dump the .css in to a separate file and just link to it from the other pages. If you're using Dreamweaver you can tell it to use an external stylesheet (same thing) dunno what frontpage would let you do.

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Huh?! What page are you looking at? It's hand coded (I don't trust frontpage{Blech!} or even dreamweaver) and I know that there are no stray <HEAD> or <BODY> tags in there. It is using SSI to serve up fragments of the page, but not whole pages.

G4from128k, I don't think there's anything that should spit out white text in there, the CSS should say

BODY {color: #000000; background: #FFFFFF; font-family:Verdana,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;}
I'll go over it anyways to make sure.

Nick

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~tl
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United Kingdom
312 Posts
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  06:44:08
the problem may be with the YaBB forum linking in ....

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geekwurkz
Junior Member


USA
156 Posts
Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  20:22:42
Oops... The NewsItems mod wasn't installed properly. Fixed. I also fixed up (some of) the CSS.

BTW... About the forum... it's temporarly linked in from my website, http://www.egcq.tk And the name is a long story that involves Carlos & Charlies and El Rodeo (two local mexican restraunts)

Nick

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