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mypojam
Junior Member


Malaysia
192 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  05:53:56
Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

Cannot open database ''. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt.

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brad_k
New Member


Canada
63 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  06:41:31
That means this forum is hosted on a Microsoft platform, using Microsoft scripting on a Microsoft database. :-)

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markie
Starting Member


Netherlands
38 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  06:49:01
quote:
That means this forum is hosted on a Microsoft platform, using Microsoft scripting on a Microsoft database. :-)

Indeed, and that leaves only one question, why? ;-)

Maybe this been brought up before, but it really gets annoying IMHO. It's a miracle there are still people coming to this forum, cause normally a crash where posts are gone and now these errors (i've encountered this message several times when visiting the last couple of days) are one big reason people won't come back. Isn't there anybody out there with a decent server on a decent line and *please* a non-ms-os?

On the other hand, I can write down anything I want here, sooner or later this post will be gone anyway :-)

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~tl
Junior Member


United Kingdom
312 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  09:38:43
basically because coxy is getting this hosting for free

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  10:31:30
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Indeed, and that leaves only one question, why? ;-)

Tom is right. This site is run on an MS server using MSDB because its free. The main reason no one would be able to host it on their own server is bandwidth. The amount this site uses is, i'm sure, huge.

Basically the MSDB errors are the cause of all the MLA2 stuff and the reason for threads and threads of pointless arguements here in the Lounge, and that's really their only major implications. Sure, we may lose a few posts but would you rather lose the site permanently?

Perhaps we should close this thread before flamewars and debates about how much better phpBB is ensue, not because I don't agree, but because i'm sick of reading about it.

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markie
Starting Member


Netherlands
38 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  12:04:46
Well, I don't want a flamewar either, but isn't it rather ironic that in this case a Microsoft-solution(?) is the only *free* alternative? :-)

But, another question, how much bandwith is this all taking? I'm getting my own server in about a week or 2 on a 10mbit university-line and, well, I'm gonna run my own things on there, but I could consider hosting the m68kla-stuff as well. For me there are no extra costs and the university allows everything non-commercial on there (so no t-shirts! ;-))

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brad_k
New Member


Canada
63 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  12:57:53
I'd gladly host it, afterall it was this forum which helped get my site going in the first place. Sadly I doubt my PowerMac 6100/60 behind my cablemodem would handle it. Why forum software has to be so heavy is beyond me. What ever happened to BBS message boards? <sigh> Those were the days when 2400 baud was fun!

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~tl
Junior Member


United Kingdom
312 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  13:44:08
i think it uses around a GB a month ... at least i think coxy said that at some point ...

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Da Penguin
Senior Member


USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  13:52:08
/me likes his unlimited bandwidth

Coxy stuck his neck out to get us these forums, and I think t should be him who decides if we change it. He seems to be the 'if it aint broke dont fix it type', buit that doesnt mean we should make the choice for him. I am all for making another set of forums in conjuncion with these ones, that will help enhance the lifestyle here. If people have good, vialbe, LONG TERM, solutions, please present them, and Coxy may like, or dislike them. ~Coxy isnt really our leader, but he certainly has a large vote in the forums and how they will work and where they will be going.

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llamaboy487
Full Member


USA
516 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  14:00:25
Well said.

I was all for the MLA2 Initiative when it started up, but when I saw the negative effect it was having on this forum I decided maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.

~Coxy is in charge of the upkeep and stuff so no matter what other people say its his call in the end... and yeah markie its very ironic that MSDB is our only free solution

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  16:40:00
quote:
and yeah markie its very ironic that MSDB is our only free solution

Yes, it is.....

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Gothikon
Full Member


Australia
537 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  17:13:10
The problem with someone else hosting it would be if there was a falling out and someone decided to be vindictive.

At least if Coxy has enough and decides to can everything it was his site in the first place. I suspect he risks involved in moving outweigh the disadvantages of staying here.

Anyway I haven't noticed any problems in the last few days, although I don't spend quite as much time here as the rest of you

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  20:06:37
heh... yeah we all may have learned that trying to move the MLA will cause LARGE problems for everyone involved...

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  20:12:06
Yes. Lets just keep it as is right now. We may sometimes have borkouts due to the dodgy hosting, but it's still better than ending the MLA over a shitty Mordor$oft program.

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  20:35:49
yeah... lol

the MLA is pretty good now that .org has it's nice toolbar on top

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 18 Jul 2003 :  22:00:12
Yeah, thanks to BoJ.

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Gothikon
Full Member


Australia
537 Posts
Posted - 19 Jul 2003 :  03:27:54
Mmm, great banner that links to almost NOTHING

I've actually an idea for site content thats might actually get off the ground nut I'll post it in the appropriate place.

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 19 Jul 2003 :  07:02:42
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Mmm, great banner that links to almost NOTHING

LOL. Ah well, it was fun anyway.

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