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a moment of silence for Netscape

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llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 15:40:36 its officially dead. http://mozillazine.org/ The Mozilla Foundation started today, officially bastardizing Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org) and as soon as AOL found out, they fired all their Mozilla hackers and even went as far as pulling the Netscape logos off the building... immediately. I suggest that we observe a moment of silence for our great Browser Martyr, Netscape. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 18:19:06 This sucks. And Netscape 4 used to be one of my favourite browsers, too...until it hit version 6 when AOHell started killing it... "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 18:51:22 Well considering I didn't get on the net until 1998, I never had a reason to use a web browser. To be honest I've never liked Netscape, it's slow, crash prone, takes up about 40MB of space and half that in RAM. I don't think I've ever liked any web browser except maybe IE or iCab. Safari is just the bomb. Maybe a little incompatible at times, but definitely a great browser. I guess I am sad to see Netscape go since it was at least giving M$ some competition. --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else.
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 19:16:18 Netscape is pretty crash prone on classic mac's (its better if you give it alot more ram). My first browers was mosaic 1.0 on the PC, that goes back to the start of the internet (first pc browser isnt it?)
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 19:29:37 Netscape 4 has always given me good results on '040s. But yeah, if you're running Jag, Safari is definately the way to go. It simply kicks ass. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 20:16:14 wow... I ran Netscape 6 on my PC... that's why I even have AIM today Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 20:19:16 Thats the reason i have AIM too, Cory. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 20:40:51 netscape use to be the best, but then in IE 3, microsoft started making it's browser faster. so i guess from that point on, it sucked. i'm just glad that it died in AOL than it died on it's own! there's really a lot more features in phpbb!
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 21:33:22 IMHO IE's always been a complete POS, even though it did start to get a little bit better with version 4.0. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
geekwurkz Junior Member USA 156 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 22:33:48 And I've used Netscape since v1.0... and Mozilla since last year. Thank goodness mozilla will continue, even if it's without a paid staff. nick ------------------------- Nooooo! You Found My Hidden, Secret ChatRoom irc.freenode.net:6667 #elgatoconqueso
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 22:45:35 I have a boxed copy of IE 3 for windows, 2 for macintosh back when they actually made moneys on browsers Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Jul 2003 : 22:55:25 LOL. Kinda reminds me of the time i saw a boxed copy of Netscape in a PC shop back in '97. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 01:20:05 I used to have a boxed copy of Netscape 1, it was shareware back then, it came with a ISP connect kit I bought. Netscape was only ever good on Macs with good ram and stable systems. NOT road apples. On the PC front, Netscape wasn't the best, it seemed they liked the bloat in thier software and could never get it slim enough. Ie on the other hand, sadly for some sites is a requirement. Although I have a hack that prevents people from using Ie on a site. It just crashes whenever the page loads. Some argue and say Ie is stable, yes, but when it crashes, every single window you are using is lost. In other words, if you are doing important things.....consider it yesterday's news.
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 01:54:40 Netscape is the browser I prefer. Used to be on the pc's & Macs back in 94/95? Netscape changed & from what I've seen anything after 5 is just unworkable. IE is completley dodgy everytime I run it be it on pc or on Mac, it seems to have a very narrow idea of how it should be set up. I didn't get far with Mozilla, it was slow to start up but then seemed fairly nippy once it got going, but I dread having to configure it. From what I've seen of "modern" web browsers they are just too much hassle, I'll certainly be putting my 4 year old son through an intensive training course lasting six months(through which period he'll not be allowed to play or watch telly) & then he might understand how to use a web browser, honestly they are all pants from what I've seen you need to learn more with a web browser than you do with Mac classic os or with win95. Netscape was good at one time but it stopped being good quite a while ago. Man I hope Safari is good or just that we get a decent web browser. I vote against too many sh*t companies cacking up our web. shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive os 8.1 128 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive 3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 02:05:50 shakti: You won't be dissappointed with Safari. It really does kick butt. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
~tl Junior Member United Kingdom 312 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 06:09:34 yeah ... safari does rock .... its like the best bits of every browser rolled into one Orcadian MLA Division 68ks Liberated: 2
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 06:21:00 Agreed. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 12:14:41 quote: I used to have a boxed copy of Netscape 1, it was shareware back then, it came with a ISP connect kit I bought. Netscape was only ever good on Macs with good ram and stable systems. NOT road apples. On the PC front, Netscape wasn't the best, it seemed they liked the bloat in thier software and could never get it slim enough. Ie on the other hand, sadly for some sites is a requirement. Although I have a hack that prevents people from using Ie on a site. It just crashes whenever the page loads. Some argue and say Ie is stable, yes, but when it crashes, every single window you are using is lost. In other words, if you are doing important things.....consider it yesterday's news. <imput type crash> -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 12:22:43 heh... speaking of netscape... does anyone remember anything about how netscape and java were supposed to be the bases of this wild new OS that marc andreesen was going to create along with the people at SUN and (that other place iThink) Netscape also supposedly had server software... or something... I forgot where I read it but it's an interesting tidbit Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 12:48:52 well, now on Win32 the only real good browser is Mozilla Firebird, formerly Phoenix. Its 10 times faster than IE, and its just a browser, without all the MozillaBloat. I used Netscape 2 and 3 on my Performa, my ISP gave me IE2 for Mac and i promptly downloaded NS. They were pretty good, but Netscape now (as much as i hate to say it) is total crap and truly should have been dead a long time ago. Go to http://www.sauna.org/retro/ to download Win and Mac binaries of early browsers, like NS 0.9 versions and all versions of Mosaic. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 14:04:19 heh... yeah NetScape 7 IS really slow on the TiBook... that's kind of weird... on the day that NS7 was released, the screensavers ran a poll... "Netscape 7 was released today, do you even care?" "yes" or "no" Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 14:24:48 I vote No. AOL should not have bothered buying netscape, it died years ago. Let it be buried in peace, stop trying to raise things from the dead AOL!
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 14:55:11 Actually, I thought that AOL had killed netscape, the way they turned it into an AOL thing, and promoted Internet Exploder. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 17:10:41 AOL got something like $900,000,000 or was it $700,000,000 recently from microsoft in cash for a lawsuite netscape had on the books for years against microsoft. AOL purchased netscape because they wanted a club to beat microsoft as needed, now that the club isnt needed anymore its being closed down.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 18:03:14 Either way, i'm just glad th at Internet explorer is sort of dead these days. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 18:38:28 I'm using it right now. The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III Mail Server Q610 Q650 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 4G, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 22:28:11 but i must say i run like up to 7 explorer windows on a pc. really run fast. try that on a mac, you'll get a super slow web browsing. so i guess IE not on the mac is quite a good thing. like, what new tech does M$ upgraded it to these days ?
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 23:18:37 IE for the Mac hasn't had a really big upgrade since early 2000. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 23:22:42 hehehehe... now the only OSX browsers are omniweb and safari? (supported) that is... am i right? Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Jul 2003 : 23:26:43 And Mozilla, and Camino, and Chimera, and iCab. But all of them apart from iCab are based on Netscape. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 12:31:17 not quite... Safari uses the KHTML rendering engine rather than Mozilla's Gecko engine. nice try, ml5, but you were thwarted again by my Infinite Knowlege ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 16:48:33 I wasn't even talking about Safari, llamaboy! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 17:43:41 I knew that. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 17:55:37 Then why did you try and kick my @$$ when I didn't require any @$$-kicking? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 11:40:53 quote: Then why did you try and kick my @$$ when I didn't require any @$$-kicking? *Because I Can.* Next question, please. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 16:33:35 HAR!� Now to rip off Microsoft: No You Can't.� "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 17:05:55 The rules of the forum state that it must be kept civil. llamaboy487 is walking a very thin and dangerous line.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 17:21:13 Why do you say that? It was just for fun. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 18:58:09 Oops. Guess I didn't read that conversation very carefully. Sorry.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 19:38:01 No problemo. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
thequietman Junior Member Canada 127 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 19:47:15 It's all fun until someone gets hurt....... then it's hilarious --------------------------------------------- I want to be unique just like everybody else.

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