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I found signatures in my PowerMac 8100!

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maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 21:41:09 Interesting...a couple of days ago I had my 8100 open, for Yet Another RAM upgrade, and i had the case on my lap, about to reinstall the mobo. Then, just before i put the mobo on, i saw some weird markings underneath the area where the power supply is mounted. I put the mobo down, and had another look. They were signatures! Has anyone else found signatures in their 8100? Btw, this is my 8100/80AV. I checked my 8100/110AV this morning, and strangely, it doesn't have the signatures. They must have changed the moulds or something. If anyone who is reading this has a Quadra 800, Quadra 840AV, PM8500 or PM9500, can you please also check your machines? It would be cool if they had sigs too, also. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 23:00:22 I'm first this time! YAH! my 840av had signatures... when you completely rebuild a machine a few times... you really know it's guts Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
Fedorenko Junior Member Australia 463 Posts	Posted - 10 Jul 2003 : 23:47:11 quote: If anyone who is reading this has a Quadra 800, Quadra 840AV, PM8500 or PM9500, can you please also check your machines? It would be cool if they had sigs too, also. Wouldnt it be cooler if yours was the only machine on earth with teh sigantures? Good ideas usually are created by crazy people, go figure...
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 00:29:38 Definately. I doubt it though. Even though i got this from a dumpster at the uni, i really do doubt that Macs that are distributed to universities are any different to those that are sold via retail. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
mypojam Junior Member Malaysia 192 Posts	Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 02:10:58 would you be able to take it's pictures and post it up here ? it'll do a great impact on us man! i'd love to see it. yah yah. we malaysians lives in trees. and we have broadband on these trees! what does you country have ?
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 11 Jul 2003 : 08:07:35 Of course. But unfortunately, I'm back at uni, and my Macs are approximately 400km away from me. I'll try and get a pic whenever i get the chance. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
scchicago Full Member USA 936 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 06:56:20 quote: I'm first this time! YAH! OY! You weren't first CORY! I WAS!!! My post was just erased in one of our frequent server crashes! _________________ Leutennant SCCHICAGO
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 07:08:07 Exactly. Ah well. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
alphamatrix New Member USA 60 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 12:21:12 hmm, my reply seems to have disappeared, oh well! Classic, LC, LC II, LCIII, Q605, Mac IIsi, Mac IIci, Duo 230, Duo 250, Duo Dock II. Edited by - alphamatrix on 12 Jul 2003 12:22:59
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 16:57:52 What was it? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 22:02:12 hehehe... being first is sometimes fun... but other times it's not... anyway... I should have taken pictures of my 840av more often though? Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 12 Jul 2003 : 22:23:45 Maybe. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
alphamatrix New Member USA 60 Posts	Posted - 13 Jul 2003 : 12:44:16 Anyways, I said the the sigs inside the older macs isn't really uncommon, I know some of the older compact macs have em as does my IIci: http://homepage.mac.com/alphamatrix/IIci_1.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/alphamatrix/IIci_2.jpg Classic, LC, LC II, LCIII, Q605, Mac IIsi, Mac IIci, Duo 230, Duo 250, Duo Dock II.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Jul 2003 : 16:01:58 Where abouts in the machine is that? Just wondering. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 13 Jul 2003 : 18:20:57 my macs dont have signatures, i just checked. That would be a performa 578 and a SE FDHD. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Jul 2003 : 23:57:00 hehehe... I might have to look closely when I get around to overhauling my 7300 and 6500 I never really looked inside my SEfdhd when I had it's case off... I never even tried my discharge tool! I made it per the instructions found at the MLA website Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
alphamatrix New Member USA 60 Posts	Posted - 14 Jul 2003 : 00:09:23 quote: Where abouts in the machine is that? Just wondering. On the right side of the case under the logic board. Classic, LC, LC II, LCIII, Q605, Mac IIsi, Mac IIci, Duo 230, Duo 250, Duo Dock II.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 14 Jul 2003 : 01:33:19 Apparently, all the earlier SEs had the signatures, but for some reason, halfway during the reign of that model, they started using signature free moulds. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
JAaron77 Starting Member USA 14 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 19:18:14 My mac plus had signatures all in the inside of the case, I'm yet to find anything like that in my IIcx or my Classic
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Jul 2003 : 23:51:33 In compact Macs, th ey stopped with the SE SuperDrive. I know that the IIci had sigs, but i'm not su re about the IIcx. Try looking underneath the mobo. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
alphamatrix New Member USA 60 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 01:13:24 quote: Apparently, all the earlier SEs had the signatures, but for some reason, halfway during the reign of that model, they started using signature free moulds. The early machine would have sigs 'cause they only made one set of sig molds, and when they run out they were replaced with non-sig ones. Classic, LC, LC II, LCIII, Q605, Mac IIsi, Mac IIci, Duo 230, Duo 250, Duo Dock II.
QuadraJets Junior Member USA 344 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 05:41:37 My fried IIfx motherboard has developer's names silkscreened on it....but I guess that is common. Artillery Commander/Engineer, 68kMLA Liberated: LCII , III+, IIci, Q700, 800, and 840av, P550, 410 Contraband: Beige G3/300 MT o/c 400mhz, (2) 6100's Hotline mirror server: 68k.dyndns.org Edited by - quadrajets on 18 Jul 2003 05:42:08
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 18 Jul 2003 : 07:12:35 quote: In compact Macs, th ey stopped with the SE SuperDrive. I know that the IIci had sigs, but i'm not su re about the IIcx. Try looking underneath the mobo. dangit! I have an FDHD. I wish i had a normal SE, too, because its hard to run a floppy-driven mac off one floppy drive. The FDHD's have one 1.44meg drive, and the others have two 800k drives. Oh well. ________________________ Founder, IBM PS/2 Liberation Front Member, 68kMLA SETI@home Team http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project.
q950 Junior Member USA 135 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 10:45:03 Yeah, I heard the they made one back case mold for the toaster macs and once the mold cracked or broke, that was it and they stopped doing it. Logan
Golgo Starting Member Canada 8 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 23:53:57 Hello again all! maclover5 you brought this up but a few people also noticed signatures or lack thereof. Sometimes a technician at the manufacturing plant will sign for a passed component. Other times, a shorthand or abbreviated list of changes/tests will accompany initials or a signature. This is also done by service repair technicians for faster service with future repairs. They will see what history the computer has and know what they're working with. Some computer lines may have a sketchy part so more of them have signatures than other models. Having a computer professionally repaired and the habits of the technician are both variables so that's pretty open ended. Basically if it's signed, someone's been there before who knew what they were doing, not drawing grafitti. However, I'd love to hear if anybody has anything interesting scrawled in their machines! Why not? Not all service technicians are created equal. <l3VEr>
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 23 Jul 2003 : 23:59:08 I think I've seen what YOU"RE talking about golgo... the one of the panels in my 6500 had a signature on it in permanent pen... but what MacLover5 is talking about, is etched into the plastics... the signatures were probably put into the mouldings on that part... because nearly all of us have those same signatures. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life" I have alot of posts... if you don't like it than I don't know what to say.
Golgo Starting Member Canada 8 Posts	Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 00:18:55 Ah yes so if the plastic cracked or broke off then the embossed serial or whatever would be forfeit. Not good. So do some casings have more than official stamps like what maclover5 was talking about? I imagine a technician marking would have to be made with a permanent marker or one of those electronic engravers. Sounds uncommon. Would this be at all related to machines with known problems or tenuous components? Perhaps that is why the 8100 among others had these rare markings. <l3VEr>
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 03:49:42 Golgo: No, it has nothing to do at all with computer repairs. Jobs started the tradition with the original Macintosh: He thought it was a work of art, and like a work of art, he and all his engineers affixed a signature to a large piece of paper, which was prepared to become a part of the tooling for the inside of the original Macintosh. So the sigs were built into the mould. The tradition was carried through with a few Macs, such as the SE, the IIci, Portable, some Quadras, and a few others. The only reason i bought this up is because I haven't heard about the 8100 having signatures before. I've googled the hell out of it, and haven't found anything about the 8100 having signatures. Understand? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 24 Jul 2003 : 18:42:48 I had mine open but I didn't check to look. Oh well. Actually I couldn't really care any more. I'm too spent on other things, my room is a mess with parts and stuff lying all over. I'm gonna have another sale soon and get rid of the crap.

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