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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2003 :  08:07:50
Well, I think this hack is something I could get done within reason. My friend has contacts for people who can do case modding.

I want to have a window put in my 840's case, with neon lights inside. Nothing tacky but something nice. I also want to sand down the case removing all paint and painting the metal black.

As per the plastic part, I'm not sure if paint will stick. Is there a primer or solution one must coat plastic with if it is to be painted?

I will see how much the modding will cost, so if it's too much I will do black paint first cause I can always touch up the paint after.

Also, does anyone know a good source for a sled that will let me use a regular hard disk where my CD is? I don't need the CD since I use the network, and would love to have the extra bay for a SCSI hard drive.

Any ideas? Also as to any source for a replacement faceplate that is solid so people can't see inside to the drive?

I need to find a nice way to pry out the Macintosh Logos gently before painting so I can use crazy glue later and add them back in. Or should I simply paint that small Apple logo as white to offset the black case? Cause it seems the Apple logo sticker won't come out without a fight. :(

One final thing are replacement front Plates available anywhere for this model? My front faceplate has a broken plastic wedgie which means some of the case doesn't close all the way since it is missing a support point. Not a big deal but it would be nice to have it 100% secure.

Bugsi
Starting Member


USA
38 Posts
Posted - 07 Jul 2003 :  12:45:02
Dunno about painting/primer, etc. (sorry).

>does anyone know a good source for a sled that will let me use a regular hard disk where my CD is?

I'm 90% sure the sled that the CD is on also is drilled to fit a typical hard drive. Just unscrew the CD from the base, sit hard drive on sled, replace screws. Rehash: Sled has mounting holes for both hard drive or CD drive. (cool, huh?)

> any source for a replacement faceplate that is solid?

The CD was an option on most of the quadra 800 series machines. The ones that didn't have the CD had the solid faceplate. Any quadra parts junkies around here probably have them lying about, especially since *adding* the CD drive was the popular upgrade. In your case, you can probably get a faceplate for the asking around here. (I don't have one, sadly, never had a Q8xx machine.)

> I need to find a nice way to pry out the Macintosh Logos gently before painting. . .

I pretty sure there's a hole in the back of the plastic that the apple is mounted to. If you stick a pin into it, you should be able to push out the apple. If it were me, I'd leave the apple with the rainbow stripes, but if you want to paint it, you could do that too.

Dunno about a replacement faceplate. (You mean the front bezel, right?)

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Metrophage
New Member


Tonga
54 Posts
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 :  21:07:53
Sounds like fun! I was checking out Quadra800z at a shop near here where the d00d has a pile ov like six or seven ov them. Guy has had them there for years and won't sell one (as is, untested) for less than $80. Crazy, I would love to try, especially the 840av sounds nice.
I do not know ov a good source for cheep sleds. Honestly, the most cost effective might be in a mac! Find for like $15-20 new, but sometimes you might even be able to buy a whole 68k mac for that much. As for me, even boxen which I have found are missing the hard drive sleds.
Painting advice? Plastic paints well, as does the metal. I prefer to coat with primer first, or flat-white enamel if I'm doing brighter colors. For black something like ordinary grey primer would be perfect. Key is evenness, good even strokes at a consistant distance from the case. And dryness, make certain that the air is bone desert dry while you paint and as the case dries. This way the paint adheres to the surface fully and is less likely to flake. Let each coat dry fully, about five days or so. Lastly, a clear coat really does help. If you are doing black then I recommend a flat clear coat, maybe test on some other items with similar texture to gauge effect. Too shiny a finish might spoil its "darkness", but if it doesn't appear too reflective then the pigment will be sealed nicely. Enjoy!

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Metrophage
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Tonga
54 Posts
Posted - 10 Jul 2003 :  21:11:30
Oh yeah, the Apple logo! When I had to discard my frazzled 15" monitors I used a small chisel-tip razor knife to gently peel the logo off. Anything which fits underneath can easily pry it off, but try to point and sharp edges in towards the box, away from the logo, as the metal is soft

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The Balance Of Judgement
Senior Member


Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 11 Jul 2003 :  17:56:27
A small update, I will book this for next month, since my money is used up at the moment, it comes quickly and it leaves quickly. :)

Now that I have a good idea what the painting area will be all about, I know what I need to purchase etc.

The one thing I do need to get is some extra cables and cords for inside the mac. The included SCSI cables and power adapters don't reach far enough for me, since the SCSI cable *only just* reaches the CD drive as it is right now, so even if I could get the hard disk in there, the SCSI cable would not reach it, and niether would the power cable. I am sure most standard SCSI cables will work, I just have to take the old one out and make sure it's a proper length. And I'm sure it would even help a bit to get a new cable.

Inside there is some rust on the case, not much and nothing serious, but is there any way to coat that or at least deal with it so it doesn't spread or do anything bad?

Depending on the space inside I may invest down the road in a small fan for the CPU. Even though many chips can run hot like 486's and 040's, I don't really like them to and prefer to have a fan on them. Can a 840 handle a fan?

Oh! One final question, honest! :)

Sometimes the big fan inside the 840 makes noises like it's bearings are starting to go? Any sources for replacements other than existing macs?

thanks!

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Metrophage
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Tonga
54 Posts
Posted - 11 Jul 2003 :  22:46:12
Sorry if I sounded a bit prescriptive there, I was extremely tired!

Ov course other macs are not the ideal source ov parts, but when cats try to sell NOS sleds and cables for like $20-40 it is a consideration. Naturally I want to liberate as many macs as possible in functioning condition! Another option is to use a different case, like an ATX, NeXT-cube, etc- though I do like the original mac cases.
The rusted parts can be sanded and painted just as can the outside. If you sand the rust away before painting the surface then rust will not spread, if the painting conditions are dry enough. I clean also any corrosion on the board and/or electronics with rubbing alcohol and an old toothbrush or similar.
I would expect that the supply ov a Q840AV could handle a CPU fan quite easily. Current should not be very much, one ov those 12v or 5v jobs which fits as an extension to a drives power cable I would expect should suffice. I don't know about the main 840 fan, but in my 8500 the only fan is the power supply fan. Never opened the supply so I don't know what sort it is. If it shorts out or fries it could possibly cause damage to the power supply circuitry. If the case is as large as most ov the beigh cases I am accustomed to I would assume there is ample room for a replacement fan, even if not fitting in the supply case. I'd carefully open the supply, check out the main fan, and scope cheep one that fits from a salvage shop, All Electronics, Electronic Goldmine, Brigar, or such.
I can't wait to try making cables! I don't know exactly how to fit the ribbon cables with the 50 pin scsi connectors, or make IDE cables, or any such thing. I will be psyched when I can crimp what cables I need!

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The Balance Of Judgement
Senior Member


Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 13 Jul 2003 :  01:48:14
I'm starting to draw up the blueprints for the new tower case that is being made with wood, so when my friend goes back to school, she has a good project to work with in woodworking.

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redrouteone
Junior Member


USA
226 Posts
Posted - 19 Jul 2003 :  21:55:36
No problem adding a cpu fan. A fan that size is going to draw 200MA max. I had a dead 840 power supply that pulled the fan out of to put in my server cabinet and that huge thing only pulls 500MA.

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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 :  09:23:38
yeah... the 840av should have no problem powering basically as many fans as you want...

Maybe you should add LOTS of fans to it and have a SuperVent 840av

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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 21 Jul 2003 :  16:56:41
LOL. Definately sounds like you, Cory.

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