I want to name the group along the lines of "Cherry" something. The reason for this is because of a small scene from the movie "The Fifth" element where the bad guy is saying why he's not really evil, that destruction brings more life. The two people are in a sealed room and the bad guy chokes on a cherry. The other guy is making fun of him saying "where's the robot to pat you on your back?" So, just the idea one cherry almost brought this guy to his knees despite all his advanced technology.

So yeah, something along the Cherry line.

I also remember the quote from star trek where it was said that if you create a machine to do a man's work you take something away from a man.

The group's main idea would be to not opose technology but encourage people to have a balanced view and proper education about machines.

Too many people know too little to be trusted with computers, since they feel that computer will correct thier mistakes, that in fact technological advancements encourage people to become more lazy and be less productive.

Anyone want to join? The group focuses on any computing platform, so we look at macs too seeing how Macs historically have been more balanced than thier rivals, but this often led them to thier doom because people enjoyed being lazy. :(

I don't think that my machines do my work for me... or that I'm too dependant on technology... although...

(ok so I do somewhat depend on my computer.. it's my lifeline, my ticket to the world)

but I usually prefer to do most things on my own...

Until I moved to arizona, I didn't notice people who thought that the computer would correct every of their mistakes, or are in general "dependant" upon computers or technology...

Technology, is also different computers. Technology is a general concept, anything that mankind can invent... pens are technology, paper is technology.
that is "low" technology... but it is technology (thank you 7th grade "technology"(woodworking) class...)

If it's technology in general you speak of... I'm very dependant upon it... I wear clothes, I carry things around in a bag, I have tables to put things on and I sit on chairs...

I also use my computer...
I have horrific handwriting, so I write with my computer.
I use computers, and the little sibling of computers, "the calculator" to help me speed through calculations and math problems.
I mostly use my computer to communicate, through the complete use of Microsoft Office and other programs, I can publish things, I can make presentations, I can keep notes, I can manage finances and many other things.

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that's all I can think on dependance on technology for today... I think that it's great that you're starting a group of people who share your interest, but (as this is a discussion forum) I'm also sharing my view

do I think that society is becoming dependant upon technology?

Yeah I bet that it's going that way....

Am I dependant on technology?

not in the way you're implying.

It's the whole myth of a paperless office. Yes such a thing does exist, but not in the way people think, and certianly not with our level of organization since relatively few standards exist when it comes to global interconnectivity. The only thing that comes close is the Internet but even that suffers from some really big glitches, and the fact the Earth is divided into countries with each worse than the last one, controlling global communications is impossible, everyone has to cover thier own back and cut thier losses so to speak.

Lucky for us, Macintosh machines don't feed this hype as much. I always though of macs as the workhorse not playhorse. On my windows machine there are a million and two ways to get distracted. On my mac, it's easy to stay focused and get what I need done and not spend so many hours on the machine.

My big problem with that is that your standard paperless office still has paper... (per what I've seen)

XEROX' big thing is that their printers can help you so much with your paperless office...

what problems are there with the internet?

IMHO the internet is fine, it's just much of the serving software, and other client software...

An internet made up entirely of MacOSX servers and MacOSX clients would operate MUCH better than the system in place now....
The only other problem I can see with the internet is dialup....

And the Internet suffers from major design flaws which are being addressed in IP Version 6 when it is released. However it's all a matter of how they use it.

The internet is 20 years old roughly and the core protocalls of the internet and system has not changed alot, it's a 20 year old system that has had mostly patches here and there, but there is no pressure for people to conform to any one standard, since this is a global community. So it makes it a little more difficult to enforce standards.

Basically what I am doing is creating a blueprint for what the generic machine of tomorow will look like and feel like plus act like.

My philosophy is that to really get a nice jump start in this technology circle, a new standard has to be set, one that does not bend over backwards for previous standards to maintain support.

One things with many of today's machines is that they all in some form bend over backwards to support older things. This new design I am working on doesn't bend over, it pushes forward, and anything in it's way gets run over. So the lesson is that you can't always be a packrat technologically speaking, there is a point where you have to say goodbye to the old and move to the new.

This is where it all starts.

CherryBomb. :)

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