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QuadraJets
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USA
344 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  20:45:12
A person I work with just gave me 2 playstation 2's that have been eaten by hydrogen sufide gas from nasty well water we have around here. One puts out a very crappy video signal, and the cd drive will not open right. The other has a good video signal, but the cd drive is absolute crap: it will not open/close right, and it will not read PSone games. I pulled that one apart and scraped the corrosion off of the bare copper tracings, soldered in some bad spots, and now I have a somewhat-working ps2 with a noisy fan and a broken cd drive.

This person is also going to give me a Xbox that is corroded to see if I can fix it. Both companies do NOT cover such damage under warranty, but Sony did replace it once. Microsoft just says "you had to spill something on it to do that!"- ignorant city schmucks with non-nasty water...

Here's a couple high resolution scans of the ps2 mainboard where you can see the black corrosion on the bare copper: http://68k.dyndns.org/ps2/ps2.html

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  20:50:33
Holy shit...damn thats bad.........

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USA
4679 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  21:53:17
heh... make one or more of them into a server!!!

PS2 server would be UBERCOOL!!!

(or just kinda.. running linux)

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llamaboy487
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USA
516 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  22:48:34
OMG man, looks like you washed it down with HCl...

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  23:02:10
hehehe...

"let's just give the playstation a nice hydrochloric bath to cleanse it of the dust"


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QuadraJets
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USA
344 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  06:12:26
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OMG man, looks like you washed it down with HCl...

well, hydrogen sulfide (HS) is an acid gas, just like gaseous HCl. The sulfur in HS has a low oxidation state, so it smells strongly of "rotten eggs", and anyone who isn't used to it notices it.

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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  14:17:33
Dude crop the photos and lower the resulotion, the first one is 4mb+!.

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emaq123
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USA
258 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  14:30:00
Not a pretty sight. If I had to have gear in that enviroment, I'd look into coating the circuit boards to protect them.

Good luck fixing it. You've got some bad damage there.


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Unknown_K
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USA
602 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  15:54:00
Hmm could be they didnt remove the flux when they soldered the board together. That stuff is acidic and corrodes metal when heated. Still from what I seen in those pictures if that was caused by bad well water you better move NOW. Does your other electronics look like that after a year?

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  18:40:53
Hmm, out of curiousity, what interface does the PS/2's CD drive use? Is it standard IDE, laptop IDE, SCSI, or some sort of crappy proprietry interface? You might be able to hack in a drive from a PC.

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QuadraJets
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USA
344 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  19:24:17
quote:
K Hmm could be they didnt remove the flux when they soldered the board together. That stuff is acidic and corrodes metal when heated. Still from what I seen in those pictures if that was caused by bad well water you better move NOW. Does your other electronics look like that after a year?

The flux used in PCB soldering is Rosin flux, not Acid flux. Acid flux is used mostly for plumbing.

I have lived here and used that water for 19 years, and I am still alive.


And ml5, the drive does have a crappy proprietary interface, on the Rev. A ps2, it has the motor control chips on the drive, and the Rev. D ps2 has them on the mainboard... so I can't really swap drive parts either.

The rev. D seems to be working, except it won't play PSone games, and the video goes screwy during high-motion scenes of some games. guess I'll have to stick with slow games like RPG's.

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emaq123
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USA
258 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  19:25:29
quote:

Hmm, out of curiousity, what interface does the PS/2's CD drive use? Is it standard IDE, laptop IDE, SCSI, or some sort of crappy proprietry interface? You might be able to hack in a drive from a PC.

I thought that the CD was semi-custom. It would be IDE but a standard drive wouldn't work. I'm not sure, but that's what comes to mind.


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boredomconquersall
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Canada
613 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  20:09:04
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BOLLOKS!!!


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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  21:00:54
heheh... you can't run linux on them??

THAT WOULD BE COOL!!

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QuadraJets
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USA
344 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  21:19:35
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THnx
"but... 200$?!!?!?"

Ya got that right! I don't know why she kept buying the darn things. $400->black corrosion flakes...mmmm tasty

anyhow, they are my problem now, tonight at work she told me I could keep them for parts or...... throw them away!

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cory5412
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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 Jun 2003 :  21:33:49
LINUX LINUX LINUX!!!!!

I don't know how much it'd cost for the PS2's... but for that XBOX it would be UBERCOOL!!! (and not too expensive iThink)

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  02:35:37
I'm amazed that your parents haven't thought of moving yet....i sure hope that none of you guys have any electronic stuff that costs lotsa money!

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The Lightning Stalker
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747 Posts		 Posted - 12 Jun 2003 :  09:16:43
I feel your pain. Around here, it's mold that's the problem. Everyone's got a dehumidifier. I lost a couple of Apple 2's I left on the basement floor in cardboard boxes.

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