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mypojam
Junior Member


Malaysia
192 Posts
Posted - 09 Jun 2003 :  03:51:38
hey. i got the updater for 8.0.
is it safe to upgrade without a startup disk ?
how can you make a startup disk.

i don't have the mac os 8 cd.
i downloaded the update and gonna run it internally.

i did and the patcher says that i got some problems on the hard disk
and cannot fix it and must start on another disk.

anyone care to share tips on 8.0/8.1 ?

i got kaleidoscope
smoothie
power windows

oh man i forgotten but i did have 2 MB RAM just for the extensions and add ons.

i like to have more ram on my system because i'm not fully using my 36 MB ram.

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 09 Jun 2003 :  04:03:33
Every time I've updated to 8.1 with the machine booted off the HD being updated, it's worked fine! As for your problem with the HD, it's probably either been formatted with a third party utility, or has some errors that Disk Fird Aid cant' fix (very likely!). Either way, it should still work....just make sure you untick the checkbox that says to check the disk for errors and update the driver.

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Citon X600
Junior Member


Canada
206 Posts
Posted - 09 Jun 2003 :  04:40:25
Depending on how much Ram you have, you can create a small minimal boot disk and put a small version of 7.5 on it like the 7.5 Access Disk and run the disk tools from that to fix the drive then boot back into regular OS 8 and see if the trouble is fixed.

The ram disk of a size 4MB should do the trick if you use NAD 7.5, that's how I fixed a few Macs myself. Although in any computer, regardless of OS, I always try and have at least 2 partitions if there is only one disk, it saves allot of trouble, in the cas eof Macs, it means another drive I can boot from as Macs are not as hyper about booting from extra partitions like how X86 machines are...and with 2 partitions should something go wonky, you have an extra drive to work with, so you're not stuck with only one drive that you have to nuke to fix the problem. With the extra partition you can copy stuff over.

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NewToMacQ610
Starting Member


Canada
19 Posts
Posted - 09 Jun 2003 :  18:10:30
Make sure you use Disk First Aid 8.2 which is a free download from . . .

http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html

The Mac OS 8.1 update may not have given you version 8.2

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mypojam
Junior Member


Malaysia
192 Posts
Posted - 09 Jun 2003 :  21:33:44
first, i successfully upgraded to 8.1 last night.
my worries does not make sense...

i reboot without extensions and then run the installer.

i did the RAM disk startup disk thing.
i got a 7.5.5 system in my mac.
i copied the finder, apple menu items, extensions and control panel.
and then i set the startup disk control panel to the ram disk..
thank god it works...

no hassle at all. i'm a 8.1 genius! just kidding.
how can you make your own startup disk ?
i mean on a floppy... a minimal one.
i need to optimize my hard disk with norton.


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NewToMacQ610
Starting Member


Canada
19 Posts
Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  02:33:00
I think Norton Utilities 3.5.3 can create a startup disk ?

Here are some useful links for new Mac OS 8.1 users

http://www.versiontracker.com/macos/systems/system8.shtml
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30345
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30344
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30343
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=13628

http://mc04.equinox.net/informinit/ ( shareware )
http://www.macnn.com/MacTips/archive.shtml
http://www.geocities.com/texas_macman/MacTroubleshoot.html#1
http://www.macfixit.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20021011090449544
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/superbooter75.html
http://www.pure-mac.com/

Disk Utilities for 68k Macs to fix/recover files/disks:

Norton Utilities 3.5.3
Disk Warrior 2.1.1
TechToolPro 3.0.6
Disk Rejuvenator 1.0
( see: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/superbooter75.html )

I think the above utilities are the last versions that work with 68K Macs ?

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mypojam
Junior Member


Malaysia
192 Posts
Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  06:13:38
thanks for the post.
helps me a lot.
i'm definitely gonna optimize my system now.

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 10 Jun 2003 :  10:40:21
My best advice here is to buy an external cdr drive, then you can back up any software you have. For my own peace of mind I backed up the software I got with my 650 & then found that there were problems with it's drive, I reformatted the drive & then copied the software back onto it.

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