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boredomconquersall Full Member Canada 613 Posts	Posted - 26 May 2003 : 20:43:46 hehehehe! the30$ super quality value computer RUNS! I paid 20$ for the old AT server case (which is for very good quality, took me 3 hours to make a .5CM hole!) and another computer, which was "broken", and had a 10X CD drive and a 10GB hard drive, 96MB 72-pin RAM and a 90MHz pentium. nothing too flashy, but for 10$, and the only things wrong with it were there was no sound or video card and the OS was "flakey"; it's windows 95B! waddia expect!!!! hehehehehhhehehehe!!!!!!! now I put everything into the AT case, installed 98SE, and put in a SCSI card and an ethernet card and voila! instant file server! THnx "and I want a ball of glue to be my friend!" 10000Th poster and 1000Th AND 1500Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 26 May 2003 : 20:46:17 NT4 makes an awesome file server especially since it can serve to macs Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 26 May 2003 : 21:37:07 Congrats! And yeah, get NT 4. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 26 May 2003 : 21:41:45 hey! we need to start the NT4 brigade!!! it'll be a sector dedicated to bringing the goodly mac-related services of windows NT to the 68k mac world yeah... NT4 has printer macintosh serving and file sharing macintosh compatible.. I'll also reiterate how it DOES NOT lose the resource forks. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
boredomconquersall Full Member Canada 613 Posts	Posted - 27 May 2003 : 20:19:13 \|= P I kinda wanted to run a unix distro on it like raphsody or openstep. THnx "DIRGE!" 10000Th poster and 1000Th AND 1500Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 27 May 2003 : 20:26:45 heh.... Rhap is cool (but my copy doesn't want to work...) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 02:00:27 Yes, Rhapsody is definately a cool option. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Flash Full Member Australia 637 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 02:11:43 I've played with NT4 server on a PII 133 and it was too slow and painful for words. I reckon it would be worse on a P90! Unix or something would be better - - - - - - - - - - - - - A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it sure beats a blank stare for starting a conversation. 68k ParaMedic
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 02:14:31 Interesting. NT 4 runs fine on an AMD K6 233 with 64 megs of RAM. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Clinton Full Member USA 700 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 12:03:35 NT4 server is what is running on our email server, which happens to be an HP NetServer Pentium 100 that my company paid ten grand for in 1994 or somewhere therabouts. anyway, just 2 cents CCC Commander Promotion: 19 Mar 2003� 13:06:30 68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, an SE/30, and a MacII Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180 Apple //s rescued: Apple //e
emaq123 Junior Member USA 258 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 13:05:50 quote: I've played with NT4 server on a PII 133 and it was too slow and painful for words. I reckon it would be worse on a P90! Unix or something would be better NT4 loves RAM. Feed it and it will run. You can do appletalk file sharing on linux. I've been meaning to set it up for my older macs. emaq123 SE/30 and system 6.0.8 Now we're talking POWER!
markie Starting Member Netherlands 38 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 13:10:59 I really don't get this NT4-thing on this forum. What's that all about? IMHO the x86-architecture is the most crappy anyone could come up with, but hey! it's cheap, especially when it's a couple of years old ;-) Anyway, I run x86, also as a server (my router/firewall is this K6-2/333 on an Asus-mainboard and a Compaq Smart SCSI-controller and 3 nics) but no way I install NT4 on there, I chose OpenBSD, which I enjoy running, but I could've installed any *nix on there... I really enjoy running old hardware with current software... (I also installed NetBSD on a LC475 :-)) http://mark.is-a-geek.org/ a Classic II, a LC475, a Quadra 800 and some other hardware :-)
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 15:23:17 While we're talking about NT, does anyone know whether its possible to put NT PPC on a PM8100? Just checkin.... "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
emaq123 Junior Member USA 258 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 17:22:19 quote: I really don't get this NT4-thing on this forum. What's that all about? I can't say myself either. I've supported the beast for years, so I do know a bit about it. But to use it? If I had a license laying around not being used, I could see myself using it over linux / bsd for a few things. Mainly as a desktop OS. For server duties, I'd rather use Linux / BSD / VMS / NextStep, etc... Right now I have two x86 boxes running Mandrake as house servers for the Macs. I killed my NT 4 server since it served no useful purpose. I plan to re-establish my NT4 Domain using Samba to support a couple of old PCs running Windows for my kids to play games on. My internet connection is provided by a Win2k box because that's all my satellite provider supports. I have found that Macs make a much superior desktop machine vs Windows. I can't remember the last time one of the Macs in service in the house (at least five) came up a problem. I can't say the same for Windows boxes. I guess I will have to break down and get a couple of boxes running Windows for me to hack on in support of my work. Like it or not, I will be supporting Windows for the forseable future. The nice thing about that is I can just use the 30-60-90 day demos from MS. Considering that I use to support 6-8 Windows boxes at home, I'm enjoying not having them around anymore. I see this thread as a good discussion of value for the money. emaq123 SE/30 and system 6.0.8 Now we're talking POWER!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 21:46:50 what's the thing with NT4 here? WE LOVE IT!!! NT4 is great, workstation runs well on very old hardware and it makes a nice "garage" or shed workstation for quick things like checking the eMail or AIMing or even like... taking notes and junk... I actually kept my NT4 workstation, a Compaq Prolinea 4/66 with 24 MB of RAM and a laser printer for doing schoolwork, browsing the internet (yeah, this and a 28.8 ISA modem got on the internet!) and listening to CDs and MIDI files (soundblaster 8 packard bell card).... Mine had ethernet also, but I didn't have a network of my own at that time.... NT4 server ran great on my dell optiplex pentium 200 MHz with 64 MB of RAm, even under the guise of a "domain controller" NT4 server and workstation also both ran exquisitely on the Athlon 700 machine, as long as I put in an older more supported video card. besides, NT4 is one of the cheapest/ best mac compatible PS operating systems out there... NT4 server is great for me during my 'Intrikit Weaver" project because it weaves the files and changes the differences between macintoshes and PCs on a network... NT4 allows me to change files between platforms savely and without ruining resource forks... NTFS is also a rocking file system for the x86 platform..... yeah, x86 is cheap and pretty carppy... but boy is it "standardized".... macs change architechture from model to model... at least from line to line on the 68ks and such.... that's why the MacOS has such a hard time going easily from model to model, IE, windows 1.0 will work on a pentium 4, but MacOS 1.0 won't work on a mac 512ke.... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 28 May 2003 : 22:08:56 Yes, NT rocks on my K6 233. Btw, you can run OS 1 on a 512k. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 30 May 2003 : 00:13:48 but not on a mac plus!!! close enough anyway... and if you can on a mac plus, and i'm certain you cant... you cant run it on an SE!!! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 30 May 2003 : 06:04:08 I'm not sure, but i do believe that the 512ke and the Plus use very, very, very, very, very, very similar ROMs. A coupel of years ago when i had vMac on my 1400, i used a "Mac Plus" Rom, booted it into System 7.1, and it came up as a "Macintosh 512ke". Weird. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1

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