One of the two NuBus expansion bays in the Dock does have an ethernet interface (with DB-15, coax, and RJ-45 ports). The second bay seems empty. I'll also need to do some more exploration on the modem in the Duo/ Dock and check if the Dock contains an FPU or any other goodies.

I also don't know if the screen, keyboard,or trackball works on the Duo itself. So far, I have not gotten the thing to work outside the Doc because the battery seems terminally dead (no surprise there) and the Doc is the only source of power for it. I plan to manually cycle the battery to attempt to rejuvenate it.

Prior to this conquest, I had never had or even held a Duo. The compact size and light weight of this little laptop is amazing. On the other hand, I am shocked at how big and heavy the Dock is (I had to carry the thing 2 miles to get it home). I guess Apple giveth and Apple taketh away in the weight and size department.

Well, I'm off to Google Duo Info....

G4From128k

Btw, if you want an adapter, a clamshell iBook, PowerBook G3, or PowerBook x400 adapter will work fine.

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Btw, if you want an adapter, a clamshell iBook, PowerBook G3, or PowerBook x400 adapter will work fine.

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emaq123

you can put a HDD into that sucker, find a disassembly manual, and have at it.

if you have a Dock II, it has an FPU for your duo, so it'll work faster.

I love the way that the full sized dock sucks the duo up like a VCR, its kinda cute that way :)

CCC

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I asked to to my father to rebuild a dead duo battery, and he did it. Now, i can write for 1h and 30, more or less.

15$? a real good price, the same object was sold in e-bay for 150 euro, some weeks ago.

enjoy!

f.

.ME breaks out the Apple Adjustable Keyboard!

I've always wanted a duo and dock... actually I do go back and forth between yes wanting one, and not wanting one...

I think that it's in cory's "aesthetic yes" right now

very stunning machines from cory's aesthetic standpoint.

f.

I like Clinton's suggestion of hacking the Dock to the max. It's only a Dock I, but it sure seems like there must be a bunch of space down inside the thing (I understand that it might have 2 SCSI bays deep inside it??). A bit of dremelling should let me install my old 21 MB floptical drive, or maybe a 3.5" 270 MB Syquest drive, or maybe both. With the ethernet interface in the Dock, I should be able to get the older devices on our home network with out worrying about driver compatibility on newer Macs (the Floptical's drivers date back to System 7 and don't play well in anything like OS 8 or higher). I'll also have to reread jt's exploration of lidless ops because using the Duo and Dock with only the LCD would be preferable in my rapidly shrinking house.

More tests confirm that the battery seems totally dead, dead, dead. Even after being plugged in overnight, it registers 0% charged. This is strange because when I booted in the Dock, the battery showed 100% charged. The battery is definitely dead because if I unplug the AC, the machine shuts down instantly. I'll have to take a multimeter to the battery and see what's going on electrically with the battery.

When I get the time, I'll also have to see if the video system in the Dock is compatible with my old 17" Radius Pivot monitor. The beige and gray Pivot monitor in portrait mode would sure look nice on top of the DuoDock.

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions and support!

G4From128k

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Pulling the DeclROM from a Dock II or desoldering the power pin from the ROM IC in your Dock I will enable the LCD, but you'll lose SCSI (and FDD support, AFAIK) along with the video out. The pivot might work, which model # do you have?

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:drool: other cool monitor

NuBus Cards!
install a video card

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Ahhh yes, the infamous DeclROM rears its ugly pins. Thanks for the suggestion. Loss of SCSI would not be a problem until I install a drive in the DuoDock or finally get one of those little Powerbook HDI-30 SCSI Adaptors. Would disabling the DeclROM also disable the ethernet card in the Dock's NuBus slot?

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Nope, NuBus support with LCD display was the whole point of the experiment. It works fine and you could even put a NuBus card in the Dock to run your Pivot right next to the LCD on the open Dock.

Instructions are posted somewhere for desoldering the power leg of the DeclROM of the Dock I. Mine is now wired to a header pin pair/jumper so I can run it either way. You'll want to shave off a little of the docking bay/logic board compartment divider so the LCD will tilt back to a better angle, but it'll run just fine in ROMless/LCD mode. ADB will work fine, never tested sound or the FDD because I didn't expect them to work or need them, but you'll definitely lose the serial ports and probably the modem passthru, but I'll bet the Duos ports would be functional . . . behind the folded legs of course. :rolleyes:

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Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 26 May 2003 07:55:27

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/

Macs Liberated: 9 - 6400/180 (main Mac), 660AV, 636CD, LCIII+, LCII (2), Classic II, Classic and SE.

In my google-aided quest for information, I also found these Duo-related pages.

What you can do with a Duo: http://www.lowendmac.com/macdan/01/0822ek.html
Massive 3-part Duo and Dock FAQ: http://members.aol.com/kim/computer/duo/duoindex.html
Another large FAQ: http://home.att.net/~JBDUOFAQ/frfaq.html
Info on some suggested utilites: http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-196.html#lnk5

The only remaining thorn in my side is the dead battery (which puts out 6 V open circuit and only a few milliamps shorted). I have not gotten the thing to charge yet (despite resetting the PMU) and suspect that the battery is so dead that the Duo refuses to recognize it. I'll have to rig up a manual charger to it and see if I can force-feed some electrons into the thing.

G4From128k

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