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I think yellowdoglinux is good for PCI macs

There are preciously few machines that make a finer UNIX playstation than an SE/30 with NetBSD...

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I think yellowdoglinux is good for PCI macs

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SE/30 and system 6.0.8 Now we're talking POWER!

The first one to be released will be NetBSD 68k (1.6). It will contain all the files from the ftp archives, plus all the binary packages required to run applications. The ftp site has a complete listing of categories of binaries that work with NetBSD 68k, so these will be sorted into folders by category on the CD.

I will also be sprucing up the documentation so it's easier to read, and hopefully have all the files unpacked, ready for an install so when you grab the CD, you don't have to worry about unstuffing anything to get it up and running. If I can get my graphics application working, hopefully I can also make a special row of icons to make a picture like they do in other programs. :)

If I can get Print to PDF working, hopefully the HTML documents can be converted to PDF for easy reading.

I will start to do the other Linux Distros in a bit after this one is done. I can't be sure as it's still archiving, but I think it will be a 3 or 4 CD archive. Of course, these will be seperated as:

NetBSD 68k Installation Disk

Supplemental Applications Disks 1-3 etc, etc.

If anyone has suggestions let me know.

if there's some kind of... 'installer' all the better!!!

I'd like to see what my IIsi could do as a 'nix machine and it might become an interim webserver...

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I am doing for fun a complete Set of Distrobution CD's in toast format that I will be posting to my sourceforge account later for varias 68K Linux Distrobutions.

The first one to be released will be NetBSD 68k (1.6).

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BSD is basically... linux for those who think that linux is "cheap"

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geee... I think by "the linux type" he means... small, cheap, free... based on "the linux model"

BSD is basically... linux for those who think that linux is "cheap"

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SE/30 and system 6.0.8 Now we're talking POWER!

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The Installer CD of course is in HFS, but what format should the Software CD's be in? Can NetBSD by default read Mac HFS CD's?

Thanks.

First, I went to various of the mirror sites and none of the mirrors have iso images of the binaries that are available for netbsd, just the 60mb or so installer cd. (ftp://iso.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/iso/1.6/x68kcd.iso"

My installer CD is roughly 60mb, but is in HFS format for easy Mac OS access. (Toast Image)

The three software CD's are ISO 9660 Level 1 Toast Images.

This is going to be an "unnoficial" release as I aded a few things here and there that most likely the official NetBSD group would not be able to sanction, but for the convienence of users I included it.

Some possible issues:

The Install CD is bootable, but the system which it uses was originally on a floppy disk and often required write access. But, I figured the Mac OS is a smart little Apple so it should be able to rough it out. If not, I'll update the image if folks say it gives errors.

This is my first time doing anything like this. Thanks to Toast it wasn't hard, but perhaps I missed the occasional item. Please let me know if I did.

I did this because I hate trudging through ftp sites folder by foldering iether looking for something or just taking a peek. So, it's just alot easier to waste 99cents on a writeable CD disk to archive it on cd in case you want to tinker with it.

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59899

This is where the CD sets will slowly be listed.

Hope this comes in handy for folks. I will be working on other POSIX systems for 68k soon.

(POSIX should reduce any flames, since it's a standard which both UNIX and Linux use. So there.)

The test machine used was a Quadra 840AV, with blank 1GB HD.

I burned the CD on my G3, popped it in, and booted right up into the System 7.1 provided on CD. Then the problems began.

• Being that the HD was blank, I had no TeachText or browser to read any of the readme and instruction files.
• The Booter applications were all still stuffed, with no way of getting them unstuffed.

Luckly I had my trusty FAT 7.6.1 Emergancy Boot Drive ready, set up filesharing, and transfered over unstuffed versions of the Boot applications. I also used my G4 so I could read the instructions.

I'm moving along in the install, run the boot program... crash. Restart, run again, crash again. I figured it was that the file is incompatable with the version of the booter I unstuffed (1.11.3). So I unstuffed ad sent over v2.0.0a10. It ran farther than 1.11.3, but still crashed.

It ends up, that there is a SCSI conflict with the external boot drive , so I restart from CD and the external drive off. Finally, after 2.5 hours of tinkering and restarting, I finally made it into NetBSD Install.

Then the next problem came up. NetBSD for 68K does not support HFS according to the documentation, and it couldn't find the files on the CD. It ended up, that I needed to reburn the CD, altering the directory name where the Binaries are located. For the life of me, I couldn't get it to install with all the spaces in the name.

So now, I'm sitting here typing this while the installer runs, after 4 hours of troubleshooting.

Citon: for version 2.0 of the CD, you definatly might want to include pre-decompressed Booter applications, and helper applications such as TeachText/SimpleText.

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68K Macintosh Liberation Army
31 68K Macs Liberated

The next version I am looking over the tools required. Also, in case folks have the system up and running, the downloads for the 3 CD's of binaries are online. They are all in ISO9660 Level 1.

I'm going to experiment with doing a Hybrid CD, as I have seen others who made custom CD's with an ISO partition on the CD. This may help.

I found a couple of good install help guidlines, so hopefully I can combine them into one complete document and get it easier. As I was reading through the various documents, it's actaully not that hard to install NetBSD, it's just a little "different" than how Mac OS usually works.

Hopefully once I have done reading all the faq's and manuals I will be able to better put things together.

Citon

Later tonight I am going to work some more on the Install CD and get it working more.

I was finally able to get Print2PDF working so I can now create PDF manuals. Once I edit the html of the original manual and make a clear easy to use manual, then I can include that.

Of course, this isn't going to be a recipe for 100% sucess. NetBSD will not work on every machine and it's more a trial and error kinda thing.

Hopefully in the new version I can get all the needed components unstuffed so you can start the machine even if you have no tools or anything.

I'll keep you updated.

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