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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 06 May 2003 :  06:14:43
Hi, I bought a Powerbook 140 a while ago but it came busted. I later found out it was actually a powerbook 170 in a 140 case. Now I really jimmied the internal video cable, I have a post around here somewhere. I might be able to pick up a PB 180 and try to repair my 170. The seller says it's just for parts. I looked it up on everymac.com and it's says the PB 180 is the same form factor as the 140 and 170. I've also read the 180 had a grayscale screen and not a b/w screen.

If I can't get the 180 to work, could I just take the keyboard and monitor off the 180 and put in on the 170?

Thanks!

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts		 Posted - 06 May 2003 :  06:20:55
yes you can.... this is just like swapping parts in an LC.... IIRC the PB150 and the PB100 and the PB190 are teh only 3 of the 1x0 that aren't completely interchangable.

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G4from128k
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USA
873 Posts		 Posted - 06 May 2003 :  07:09:18
You might want to ask the seller about which "parts" are good on that 180. It would be a shame to get the 180 only to find that it is broken in the same way as your "155" = (140+170)/2.

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 06 May 2003 :  17:46:06
Probably not. Although the 180 is designed similarly to the 170, all the connectors around the display/inverter/interconnect board are all completely different. However, it's been a while since I've seen a 180. That's how it is on the 180c, though.

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 06 May 2003 :  19:50:44
that's a 180 C...

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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 07 May 2003 :  15:55:21
I'd like to double check that but the manual wasn't available for download from the link on GAMBA. I downloaded a manual from apple about the 180 but it was just the beginners manual nothing with logic board diagrams.

Would there be manuals on any hotline servers?

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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 07 May 2003 :  15:55:22
I'd like to double check that but the manual wasn't available for download from the link on GAMBA. I downloaded a manual from apple about the 180 but it was just the beginners manual nothing with logic board diagrams.

Would there be manuals on any hotline servers?

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G4from128k
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USA
873 Posts		 Posted - 07 May 2003 :  18:05:02
Old Apple Manuals are getting hard to find. Here's the service manual for the 160, 165, and 180.

http://preterhuman.net/texts/computing/Apple_Service_PDF/PowerBooks/powerbook_160.165.180.pdf

Hope you fix your Powerbook.

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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 08 May 2003 :  23:24:27
it's looking good, (thanks for the link!), the connectors are in the same place on the 140/170/180, and oddly enough the manual for the 180c says it's in the same place as well. Hopefully I can get the 180 working, if if not I'll get the 170 up and running.

Thanks.

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts		 Posted - 09 May 2003 :  05:57:52
Good Luck!

(as a side-note to ML5: HA!)

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 09 May 2003 :  07:05:48
whatever.

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:30:18
yeah that's right... you know what's happening here....

you're losing that *power* or something... MacPower?

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:37:59
What "power" am i losing?

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:39:36
You know what it is (and because of that you need to tell me)

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  01:51:02
WHAT!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

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4679 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  14:42:28
You've lost your Mac Power! you only have 16 MHz of it


... weak... ML5... need more MHz!

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 11 May 2003 :  15:22:04
Whateveryousay...........

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mac-man6
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Canada
217 Posts		 Posted - 24 May 2003 :  20:35:11
Zero on the upgrade. The 180 is completely dead and made a faint noise when attached to the power adapter. The bottom half and monitor top half line up on both machines but the connections are different!. The top half monitor connection is larger on the 180. So I though he why don't I just replace the 180 (Daughter?) board and put it on the 170. Nope this time the 180 connection is smaller. So I took apart the actually screen just to see if I can replace the broken cable. Once again the 180 cable is way smaller is and the 170 cable wraps along the back of the screen. So I had a "Hail Mary" idea, I'll cut off the injured part of the cable and grafted on the 180's smaller cable/ribbon thing. I scraped off the plastic part of the ribbon with an X-Acto knife and tape the piece together. It wasn't pretty but I was desperate. I tested it out, the screen obviously turned on but the screen was completly black.

So now I'm back to square one. And asking for help, does any one have that f..... cable/ribbon?!. I can trade some off the innards of the 180. It has the 33mhz 68030 processor and supposedly 12mb of ram. I don't think I can run that ram in mine.

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USA
4679 Posts		 Posted - 25 May 2003 :  02:43:02
OMG!
If I red all that right, I would start to look for a new 'book!

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts		 Posted - 25 May 2003 :  03:19:23
Have you tried switching power adapters with another 'Book?

Oh, and Cory, why are you hiding from me?

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