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		Flash
        
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		 Posted - 21 Apr 2003 :  06:16:19
         
        
         I've been spending some quality time with my Macs this weekend, and in my rummaging around I have found four sticks of 64pin RAM (not 68 or 72 pin, but 64) These can be used in a IIfx, and i'm told they are rare as hens teeth. I have no idea what size they are but I imagine they'll be 1MB each. If anyone wants them.... drop me a line.cheers Flash! - - - - - - - - - - - - - A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it sure beats a blank stare for starting a conversation. 68k ParaMedic  | 
      
      
        
		
	
		The Lightning Stalker
        
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		 Posted - 21 Apr 2003 :  17:57:31
         
        
         I think I've got one of those.  It says it's a VRAM on the back.The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III, FPU, 20/80/enet, 7.5.5, Mail Server 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 1G/512k L2, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe   | 
      
      
        
		
	
		Flash
        
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		 Posted - 21 Apr 2003 :  18:13:12
         
        
         Like I say.... not 68 pin (VRAM), it's 64 pin RAM. 
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		MrLynn
        
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		 Posted - 21 Apr 2003 :  20:43:26
         
        
         64-pin RAM was used in the IIfx and in one Apple laser printer (not interconvertible, BTW--you can use the IIfx RAM in the printer, but not vice-versa).  I've now managed to accumulate 80MB for the eight slots in my IIfx (4x16 plus 4x4), so I won't be interested unless they're 8 or 16MB sticks.  But someone else was looking for IIfx RAM a while ago--check down in the Mac II forum./Mr Lynn The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn’t have a space program. --Larry Niven   | 
      
      
        
		
	
		Trash80toG-4
        
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		 Posted - 21 Apr 2003 :  20:52:39
         
        
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  Like I say.... not 68 pin (VRAM), it's 64 pin RAM. 
 
 
   List the info on the ICs and we can probably figure out if it's IIfx RAM or IIf/IIg printer RAM from the speed listed on the chips and the size of the SIMMs from the info in the chip designation.jt  ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF   | 
      
      
        
		
	
		Flash
        
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		 Posted - 22 Apr 2003 :  02:02:25
         
        
         <mental note> this would be a lot easier if you set up your scanner Flash! - you've been meaning to do that for a while.... </mental note>OK, well...where to begin? For a start the RAM was pulled from an old PC that my neighbour left sitting next to the rubbish bin - I also scored two 100MB IDE hard drives (but I left all the ISA cards in the box!) There's nine chips on each board of the 20 pin variety (10 at each end in rows of 5 on opposing sides of the chip - you know, the 'standard' sort) Eight of the chips are: KM44C100ALJ-7 , and the ninth is: HM514410AS7.  The sticker on the back says "Made in Hong Kong" which is not much help! The part number listed on the sticker is: HKEN9922668 + + + + + +  + + + +  + + + + + +  ... continued OK, so there's two pair of RAM, and looking at the second there is a bit more info. It has a different controller chip (Mitsubishi) and the RAM chips are Siemens HY8514256BJ-70, which I take to mean 256k, 70 nanosecond. What do you think jt? Edited by - Flash on 22 Apr 2003  02:10:00   | 
      
      
        
		
	
		G4from128k
        
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		 Posted - 22 Apr 2003 :  03:59:35
         
        
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  64-pin RAM was used in the IIfx and in one Apple laser printer (not interconvertible, BTW--you can use the IIfx RAM in the printer, but not vice-versa).
 
   I can attest to the fact that the Laserwriter IISC used 64-pin SIMMs.  I scavenged the SIMMs from my printer after it went the the great computer lab in the sky.  Unfortunately they are low capacity (only 256kB/SIMM) and too slow (120 nS) to be of use to a IIfx.G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
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		Trash80toG-4
        
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		 Posted - 22 Apr 2003 :  06:31:13
         
        
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  OK, so there's two pair of RAM, and looking at the second there is a bit more info. It has a different controller chip (Mitsubishi) and the RAM chips are Siemens HY8514256BJ-70, which I take to mean 256k, 70 nanosecond. What do you think jt?
 
   Sounds about right to me. They may be fast enough to put in a IIfx, but they're probably too small to bother with., even for a printer.jt  ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF   |