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cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 10 Apr 2003 : 20:38:34 "The only One-Mac Radio Station in the entire valley" this has always been my dream (since I've always lived in a valley) I'm going to find out about starting a small... possibly short-range or low-power FM radio station... I'll probably run it from either my 7300 or my 6500.... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 10:43:05 Sounds really cool! Just a few questions if you don't mind: Why do you need a computer to run the station? How many watts? Where/how did you get the equipment and how much? Did you make it? Is it going to be stereo or monaural? How are you going to get around the FCeeCee if at all? Good Luck! The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III, FPU, 20/80/enet, 7.5.5, Mail Server 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 1G/512k L2, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe Edited by - The Lightning Stalker on 11 Apr 2003 10:43:24
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 11 Apr 2003 : 20:20:00 The computer is to play all the music whenever I'm not talking or making my own music... I haven't gotten equipment yet, and I am considering building it on my own. There is packages and literally "radio station in a box" available. It's probably going to be few enough watts that the FCC either doesn't care about it, or doesn't know. Although I think that the Radio Station In a Box is 35 watts which should give a range of 6+ miles... There's NOTHING in that valley really so I bet it'll be 8-9 miles range The radio station in a box is stereo, same with most other transmitters Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 12 Apr 2003 : 17:48:36 ooOOoo while i continue my homebrew electronics binge... how hard would it be to build my own transmitter? do they (pirate radio stations, that is ) use any exotic equipment or is it pretty much all off-the-shelf RadioShack and Mouser Electronics parts? sounds like fun... ------------- Grand Leader, Apple /// Revolutionary Council Apple ///'s Liberated: 65498 Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 12 Apr 2003 : 19:45:19 The funny thing is radio shack actually sells ALL THE PARTS in a KIT!@!!!1 it's a very low power like (one of those iPod transmitter) things... but it wouldn't be too hard (iThink) to just jack up the power... and actually that is kinda one of the things I want to do. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:00:20 All the electronics to make a low-power xmitter are most definately available off-the-shelf. It's finding decent schematics on what to do with them that's the hard part. iThink that the engineers who draw them up are afraid of lawsuits from the EffeCeeCee or something. It would be much appreciated if you could provide any of the schematics for that xmitter, as I've been looking for some good ones in that range for a long time. Too bad I live on a hill
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:21:18 yeah.... I was going to get a prebuilt transmitter/mixer and etc etc.... building on my own is cheaper though... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:39:25 Cool. I'd appreciate it if you could digitize the schematics. If it's not too much trouble. Thanks in advance.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 06:17:40 hehehe.... I don't even know what i'm doing so sure... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 15:27:25 It would probably be a good idea to pick up some books on basic soldering techniques from RadioShack� or something. "You've got questions, we've got shrugs."�� The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III, FPU, 20/80/enet, 7.5.5, Mail Server 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 1G/512k L2, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 20:36:39 quote: "You've got questions, we've got shrugs."�� "You've got questions, we've got deny statements.� (If you are a Mac user...) -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 21:04:02 yeah! if you read the "how I was liberated" story... they don't much like performa PRAM batteries... silly motorhome living people trying to get a cell phone on the same day I wanted to get denied a new PRAM battery... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 22:19:36 quote: yeah! if you read the "how I was liberated" story... they don't much like performa PRAM batteries... silly motorhome living people trying to get a cell phone on the same day I wanted to get denied a new PRAM battery... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Sounds like the time i went to get a SCSI cable for the Hackintosh.... "This cable is designied for IBM PCs. It will not work on an Apple." -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 15:25:56 Just don't tell them it's from a Performa and you'll be fine.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 21:48:35 hehehe.... FLIPPY! (new favorite word) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 22:58:19 wtf? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.� - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 04:20:47 Kits for AM/FM broadcasters are at http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/hk/default.asp?page=AM/FM%20Broadcasters You'd best have a license! The FCC has some big-@ss fines if they find out about this kind of stuff! You'll probably end up using one of those low-power transmitters to drive a linear amplifier of some kind...maybe you could use one designed for 6M or 2M amateur use, but I don't know if that would work. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 04:23:56 Oh, and how are you going to do station ID? I know that with amateur radio, the FCC requires that you identify yourself every 10 minutes, and I think that there are similar requirements for professional AM/FM stations. -KC0BIB- Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 06:08:55 WHY would I do "amatuer" radio? isn't that the one wheree anyone wants to listen to youhas to either build a reciever or buy a special $700 radio? that'll be costing MORE for me and other people if I were just to get the 35Watt "radio station in a box" (4 grand) and actually :gasp: pay liscencing in California iThink it's every hour... I might just turn the radio statio off at night then... dunno Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 06:28:23 One of the best movies I ever saw, which I can't remember the name is of this guy in high school who has his own radio station and is blasting the "establishment" and the whole time the FCC is trying to chase him down. Darn, I sure wish I knew the name of that movie. One of the best I ever saw.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 17 Apr 2003 : 22:38:41 hehe... I don't have anything to bash about the establishment... cept that they didn't kill M$when they had the chance.. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Brett B. Junior Member USA 105 Posts	Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 22:46:21 quote: -KC0BIB- KC0KBY ^^^ me
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 23:09:13 hehehe... Aparently you don't need a liscence to do an AM station... or the non-liscence limit for AM is just alot higher for AM than FM... I might consider this also... but 35 watts of FM broadcasting power sounds more fun as found here http://www.hobbytron.net/radiostation.html iThink Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
SpaceBoy Full Member USA 631 Posts	Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 23:20:35 quote: One of the best movies I ever saw, which I can't remember the name is of this guy in high school who has his own radio station and is blasting the "establishment" and the whole time the FCC is trying to chase him down. Darn, I sure wish I knew the name of that movie. One of the best I ever saw The movie you're talking about is called "Pump Up The Volume", staring Christian Slater. More info at http://us.imdb.com/Title?0100436 . Hope this helps! SpaceBoy <who likes the whole "Mac based radiostation" idea, but won't come bail you out when the FCC nabs you...> Official MLA Raconteur AppleBASIC FOREVER! TiBook G4/500, "Difference Engine" PowerMac 6500/275 Performa 6400/180 3x PowerMac 7600/132 SE/30 32/250, "Wang" PB 1400/133 PB 180/33 PMac 7100/G3-266 Quadra 950, "HAL 9000" Newton 120, "PADD"
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 23:39:10 HAR! what are this FCC of which you speak?!?!?! You could give a donation and I could pay my FCC dues... Actually the FCC has this fee exemption program or something.... I'll take alook into it... if I can be legal and still free! I'm happy! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 18:48:08 OMG! That's it! What an awesome movie! Everyone must see it! OMG!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 20 Apr 2003 : 21:04:01 hehehe... Everywhere you look there's crazy stuff like that... I was inspired by Malcolm In the Middle a few weeks ago. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 17:53:08 If this movie blows anyone else away the way it blew me away, then anything else pails in comparison. Or was that pales? Edited by - The Lightning Stalker on 21 Apr 2003 17:55:58
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 19:48:25 hehehe... I'll have to watch that movie sometime... I haven't ever seen it. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 20:18:49 quote: parently you don't need a liscence to do an AM station... You most certainly do need a license to operate on AM! I suggest that you get a license for FM from the FCC. As for that transmitter you mentioned, you won't need the mixer if you'll be operating it with the Mac. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 21 Apr 2003 : 21:18:28 well the 'give' for AM is more or something then because alot of the kits I see say "don't need an FCC liscence!" "YAY" and junk like that... The mac is mostly to get the music and/or other content... esp. when I'm gone and sleeping. I want to have a real radio-station mic and other junk... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 22 Apr 2003 : 14:18:11 Big thanks to Space Boy for refreshing my memory!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 22 Apr 2003 : 20:22:50 heh... SpaceBoy the great SpaceAge memory refresher? I wonder about TV stations .... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 23 Apr 2003 : 18:19:58 quote: I wonder about TV stations .... Those can be a little trickier and are generally considered to be out of the realm of the ameteur electronics tinkerer. The trick is that the audio and video are on 2 slightly seperated frequencies. Besides, the FCC charges outrageous licensing fees for TV and they'll have a field day on you if you don't pay up! It is an interesting thought, though. For some reason, TV doesn't seem to have that same mystique as radio. At least not with me.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 06:07:16 So I'm guessing that a prebuilt system even then is totally out of the realm of possibility... assuming that we just got a $2800 TiBook and like a thousand + in warranties so that was kinda well... i could have gotten by withoutht the warranties because the way it was bought (In February) the apple think that it was purchased in November... (alot more than the 90 days!) so I guess that it'll be more than the $4000 for the radio station nin a box eh? ohwell... [:'(] Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 10:16:30 I'm sure it will be much more. This is why you get 10 minutes of programming and 20 minutes of commercials, because they have to pay for all that way overpriced equipment and the way way overpriced licensing.
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 24 Apr 2003 : 20:04:30 I'm so-very-sorry to hear that... I would have liked to try a TV station... Maybe one day I'll just see what it looks like if I were to apply a TV like clear logo on final cut or something.... and output it to a closed TV network... yeah that's what I'll do Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 25 Apr 2003 : 10:16:42 Boredoms building a 50m transmitter, buy one from him. -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 26 Apr 2003 : 00:41:00 Uhh... meters or miles? If I wanted 50 meters... which is legal with the FCC they sell the kits and even preassembled ones for like... $20... I was thinking something that could go a wee bit farther... besides I don't think I'll be doing the radio station... until I have my projector... I also seem to keep thinking that I'll be allowed to buy another mac ex: from SlowMac... gotta check the PAF on that one... $$ is very tight and my dad has before expressed a desire to sell my PowerBook :glayven: it won't hapen though thank the god of keeping computers. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide

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