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Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 04:05:23 After having someone give me a 1 GB SCSI drive for free, and getting 2x 16mb ram simms for next to nothing, I decided to rebuild my 6100 that was in MANY parts around my room. After almost 2 hours of tinkering (Man my system disks are scratched ), it is up and running, with os 8.1 and 40 mb of ram total. But... Now what? I have no idea what to do with this machine! Didn't the nubus PPCs have issues with nixes? Is there anything else I can run on it? ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \|* \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 04:49:43 Cool! It would be cool though....to....cough....find a copy of cough Copland cough and install it.... I'm sure a copy isn't too hard to find if you look... -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 04:57:02 There are ways of making UNIX run on it. Search the Yellow Dog HOWTOs for the one about YDL on NuBus Macs. No guarantee that it will work (I haven't tried it), but it's a possibility. Either that, or MkLinux, which is so far out of date it's useless! Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 05:13:34 quote: Either that, or MkLinux, which is so far out of date it's useless! Ooooh yes, i gotta try out my copy on the 8100 when i go home! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 06:11:57 Hey Penguin! doesn't YOUR HotLine server have Copland in it? If so... I'm sure that MacLover5 would love for you to install it on your 6100 you could set it up in the kitchen of your house and let your family have the privelege of using it by using it as a recibe book? ooOOOoo it's got a GB Hard drive and 40 MB of RAM.... that'd probably make a good SETI machine :-\ Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 12:39:53 runs search through HL backup on the G4 AH hah! Copland! goes off to try to play and get it to disk... BBL! ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
mathgeek Junior Member USA 113 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 13:28:01 quote: Now what? I have no idea what to do with this machine! I depended on a 6115 for a long time. This guy: http://www.kan.org/6100/ knows more about the 6100 than any one human should. mathgeek 68K Macs Liberated: LC, Performa 636, Mac Classic II My Powerbook 1400 page http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dgoulet/1400
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 14:58:04 Is there any reason why OS 8 would not be reading my CD? It seems to not like CD-Rs at all... ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 15:11:20 quote: Is there any reason why OS 8 would not be reading my CD? It seems to not like CD-Rs at all... ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \| What version? Copland or the real OS 8? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 15:59:48 Real OS 8, which I just realized was not yet upgraded to 8.1. I did this and it works fine now, but the installation of copland seems to be an absolute PITA!! Anyone have any pointers? ~The Penguin P.S.- If the discussion of Copland is bad in terms of legallities, just let me know and I will change it or summat. \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 16:03:53 You need to connect another Mac to the PPC to run a debugger app apparently. Not sure though, because i've never installed it. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 17:22:24 I "sorta" have it installed. I can get it to load to a point of a blue screen, with yellow text saying no kernel found. And some sort of alert window, with no text in it. Its cool it has worked this far....I will report back later. Also, it says there is a preference to run it without the debugger on another machine... We shall see! ~The Penguin (Operating System Commander!) \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 18:02:32 Good luck! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 19:31:52 Ok...WTF is a scarecrow or non-scarecrow volume?! I think this is my problem in that I only have one or the other of these... ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 19:43:15 Do you have a debugging machine hooked up to the serial port? You'd be well off with a 68k like a LCII or sommat that has at least 8 MB of RAM.... There should be some documentation of that on the install image and the program(s) you need.... If you get anything working tell us Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
oldmacman Full Member USA 713 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 19:56:33 quote: Ooooh yes, i gotta try out my copy on the 8100 when i go home! See http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/nubus.shtml for NuBus YDL installation info. MkLinux really is so obsolete as to be useless. Nothing will compile right, and there are very few packages available for it that do anything useful today. You're really better off putting some flavor of Linux on there and having a machine that's actually useful. Official 68kMLA Music and NeXT Expert Macs Liberated: SE (2), LC, IIsi, PB 145b, Quadra 700 (2), LC 575, 6100 (2), PB 5300, PowerMac 5400/200, Performa 6400/180 PCs liberated from Windoze: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 08 Apr 2003 : 21:47:53 Is it an AV mac? you could get the AV components and it'd make a killer OS 8.1 machine with AV junk! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 09 Apr 2003 : 16:21:35 IT WORKS!!! Yep, Copland is fully installed, and semi working (no debugger machine attatched!) I must say, it has by far the coolest startup to date. The best way to describe it is a big blue square, which "pixalizes" into the mac os logo. I haven't gotten to use it much yet, it is really slow and unstable right now (debugger?), but if/when I can, I plan on getting some screen shots of it up. Are there any good OS 7.5 or earlier apps for screen shots? ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
G4from128k Full Member USA 873 Posts	Posted - 09 Apr 2003 : 17:04:07 Since the very beginning (the 128k) one could use Cmd-Shift 3 to take a picture of the whole screen. Cmd-Shift 4 lets you draw a box around the part you want to take a picture of. Congrats on Copland! G4From128k by Day: Mild-Mannered Engineer and Trapeze(tm) Artist by Night: Colonel of Truth, Justice, and the Macintosh Way Reserve Officer in 68kMLA Cantankerous Coot Contingent
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 09 Apr 2003 : 19:45:53 O M F G I NEED To get a NuBus mac now!!! my original plan included using the PowerBook 100 as my debugger mac COOL! just keep at it and if it's slow... well keep doing cool stuff with it! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Da Penguin Senior Member USA 1094 Posts	Posted - 09 Apr 2003 : 19:50:47 Yeah, too bad it crashes before i can tell if the key combo works! I really need to get a performa from a friend to run as the debugger. OH yeah, the "Z" theme is absofriggintutley out of this world weird! I think Keliedescope (SP?) may have something like it... ~The Penguin \| Want free 68kmla email? Drop me a line \| \| Captain, Intelligence Operations / Space Cowboy \| \| 68khotline.no-ip.org <-- Official Hotline Server \|
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 09 Apr 2003 : 20:33:22 If it has a cool startup screen... YOU KNOW the OS has to be WONDERFUL except for the lack of applications... you might just keep it for simple wordingprocessing tasken like... letters and junk... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 04:06:19 quote: If it has a cool startup screen... YOU KNOW the OS has to be WONDERFUL except for the lack of applications... you might just keep it for simple wordingprocessing tasken like... letters and junk... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Yeah! Imagine sending your g/f a letter you wrote under Copland!!!! I can imagine a MasterCard ad about this.... Power Macintosh 6100: roughly $30 32 megs of extra RAM: Nearly free 1 gig HD: Free Copland: Free ClarisWorks 4: Free or very cheap Sending your girlfriend a letter you wrote under Copland: Priceless. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 17:18:57 YAH! It's just like having rhapsody, or OSX public beta, or the hacked version of any Windows beta... BECAUSE IT'S COOL I certainly wouldn't mind thinking of running unreleased software on unreleased hardware with unreleased peripherals... Just think of Copland running on the PiltDownMan (prerelease 6100) it was released... but still is cool Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 17:48:01 Worse comes to worse, you could use it as a mail server. That is if you don't have a capable little LC III or something that's already serving that purpose maclover5: I hope you're feeling better and that it's not SARS or something. The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III, FPU, 20/80/enet, 7.5.5, Mail Server 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 1G/512k L2, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 17:55:17 Lightning Stalker: I'm fine. What made you think i might have SARS or something? -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:28:30 HAR!!! ML5, the butt end of so many jokes! hehe... MAIL SERVER! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:32:22 quote: HAR!!! ML5, the butt end of so many jokes! shut up. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 18:32:46 Well, I thought you had a cold or something because of all that coughing. I could hear you all the way from another forum. Glad to hear you're feeling okay. Edited by - The Lightning Stalker on 13 Apr 2003 18:34:25
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 19:41:02 lol, no. Its just that discussing things such as obtaining and installing Copland are topics that the legal eagles over at Apple Legal don't want us talking about. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Apr 2003 : 21:09:27 we're all glad your fine... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide

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