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BeOS.img.sit

Suggest an OSX client, and if it'll be difficult to figure out how to connect to that server then some basic directions.

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I've got soo much going on. I do want to help out though!

It'll be a bit. 405.7meg stuff-it archive.

He's correct that it is technically illegal. However, both OpenStep and BeOS are no longer sold nor supported by their creators. Be Inc. was bought out by Palm, and OpenStep became Apple's Mac OS X. Neither of the companies makes any profit from the sale of this product. I believe that whenever possible, you should obtain the product legally from a reseller. However, the dearth of legal copies of some software means that its price has increased beyond what would be considered reasonable. For example, NeXTSTEP and OpenStep, both of which are obsolete, unsupported, and used primarily for fun by computer nerds like ourselves, regularly sell for hundreds of dollars on eBay because there are so few copies of the software out there. Should you download and share this abandoned software? It comes down to your personal opinion of morality vs. legality.

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I understand people using abandonware games made 10 years ago, that is reasonable, but an OS thats official support ended only a few years ago and with companies surviavl based on selling it, it is wrong to pirate it.

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Palm while not developing BeOS, still maaintain their copyright of BeOS and pirating it is wrong. We arnt talking about NeXTStep that hasnt had a real update in teh last 5 years, but the last updates to BeOS where only 3 years ago. There are groups, and in one case a company thats future relies on selling BeOS in a different package.

I understand people using abandonware games made 10 years ago, that is reasonable, but an OS thats official support ended only a few years ago and with companies surviavl based on selling it, it is wrong to pirate it.

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Palm while not developing BeOS, still maaintain their copyright of BeOS and pirating it is wrong. We arnt talking about NeXTStep that hasnt had a real update in teh last 5 years, but the last updates to BeOS where only 3 years ago. There are groups, and in one case a company thats future relies on selling BeOS in a different package.

I understand people using abandonware games made 10 years ago, that is reasonable, but an OS thats official support ended only a few years ago and with companies surviavl based on selling it, it is wrong to pirate it.

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in one case a company thats future relies on selling BeOS in a different package

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http://www.beosonline.com is legally distributing, for download and purchase of a legal CD is making and actively working a "developer version" of BeOS. I'm not sure what it is, but they say it "wasn't leaked" ect ect.

I'd check it out and take a look at it ect ect ect it's only 10 (don't know what currency though) to buy the CD and if you must have BeOS... it'd be cool

Yeah.. matt for the verisons of the software previously discussed... it's pretty much a thing where 'noone cares" if a company stopped updating it, or stopped selling it or even acknowleging that it's there... it's pretty much yours for the taking.

For Microsoft software, I draw the line at Windows NT. I will not illegally use NT4 untill the next big OS release, Longhorn is out.

I try not to use WinMillenium illegallyu, and new enough versions of any software.

MS is phasing out acknowlegement of NT 4 as we speak.

As far as Apple's software goes, I basically go with the SGI liscence model "any version of the OS is legal to use on this computer" ect ect

It's the way I think that the liscencing for the OS for a 'closed' platform like Sun, SGI and even Macintosh shoult go.

I better stop before someone gets mad at me.

New OS like yellow tab based on BeOS have no planned support for Apple/RISC hardware.

So I don't think anyone minds that much if the BeOS for Apple systems is freely distributed. My copy including the BeOS bible only cost 5 USD (shipping to Aus was 25 though!)

I also think Be's founders would be quite glad that it was being used (and besides it's mainly for experimentation and not used in any money making related ways).

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piracy is a crime. you all should be shot.

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Using MS word on my Mac IIsi isn't going to kill anyone, especially Bill Gates, "worlds richest man" anyone??

Using BeOS isn't going to kill anyone either. Be is a defunct company and there is no chance that Palm will EVER make $$ off of BeOS.

In addition, Steve-O shouldn't care if we use NeXT Step or Open Step. Truthfully... I'm not sure as though he cares they EVER existed.

Either that or he kinda doesn't want us using them because of the whole OSX base thing... dunno where that'd go though.

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Oh I get it!
that was a joke. Ithink. It is kind of funny when you think about it.
you can disregaurd my first blurb and use the next 4 to support any previous statements.

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let's all pirate LINUX!!! LOL LOL LOL

I say though... if it's old, defunct and not sold anymore anyway... it's not 'pirateable'

'it's all on the HL servers'

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As far as Apple's software goes, I basically go with the SGI liscence model "any version of the OS is legal to use on this computer" ect ect

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In addition, Steve-O shouldn't care if we use NeXT Step or Open Step. Truthfully... I'm not sure as though he cares they EVER existed.

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Someone told me that OSX was actually already available for PEESEE (not rhapsody either)

but rhap should serve steve-O well enough shouldn't it?

Of course, now I'm kicking myself for not adding R4 to the collection, too. If only because that version still came with the old Be logoed box, which is prettier. :D

Anyone have experience installing the x86 version on VPC (5 or 6)? I don't have a supported Mac (or BeBox) at hand...

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LOL!

Someone told me that OSX was actually already available for PEESEE (not rhapsody either)

but rhap should serve steve-O well enough shouldn't it?

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nyone have experience installing the x86 version on VPC (5 or 6)?

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I'd check it out and take a look at it ect ect ect it's only 10 (don't know what currency though) to buy the CD and if you must have BeOS... it'd be cool

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piracy is a crime. you all should be shot.

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by 'available' I meant (that long long ago) someone told me it was already 'prepared' ect ect.

Apple's doing something (platform related) and when they do (if it involves switching) I'm getting myself an SGI or a SUN workstation.

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Anyone have experience installing the x86 version on VPC (5 or 6)?

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Doesn't work.

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